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Re: Reasons Why Hillary Clinton Will Not Be The Democratic Nominee for President

Ego — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:03:36 GMT

Corporate welfare creates a tiny fraction of perpetual votes compared to normal welfare systems, and I'd say that "subsidies" are usually a left-wing policy.

More important than whether a program is called "leftist" or "rightist", however, is how many perpetual votes it creates and how hard it will be to dismantle. For example, drug laws create a tiny fraction of perpetual votes compared to social security, and it would be logistically much easier to get rid of them.

Re: Reasons Why Hillary Clinton Will Not Be The Democratic Nominee for President

Bostwick — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 07:17:25 GMT

Ego:
Says the leftist.

I self describe as right wing, actually.

Ego:
Rightist policies don't create perpetual votes;

Corporate welfare.

Re: Reasons Why Hillary Clinton Will Not Be The Democratic Nominee for President

Ego — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 02:12:03 GMT

JonBostwick:

Ego:
And what do you mean by "killing arabs"?

Causing the deaths of people who speak arabic.

Ego:
Leftist policies are nearly impossible to dismantle; rightist policies are so much easier.

Says the righty. You think the Department of Homeland Security is going anywhere?

The policies that stick are the bipartisan policies, like the FDA.

Says the leftist.

Rightist policies don't create perpetual votes; leftist policies do. Not only are leftist policies incredibly electorally difficult to dismantle, they are incredibly logistically difficult, too. When you have tens of millions of people relying on welfare and social security, even if you could electorally dismantle them, you'd have tens of millions of people without their main source of income.

Re: Reasons Why Hillary Clinton Will Not Be The Democratic Nominee for President

ViennaSausage — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:30:51 GMT

Does that mean you are anti-Bill too?

Re: Reasons Why Hillary Clinton Will Not Be The Democratic Nominee for President

Bostwick — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:26:50 GMT

Ego:
And what do you mean by "killing arabs"?

Causing the deaths of people who speak arabic.

Ego:
Leftist policies are nearly impossible to dismantle; rightist policies are so much easier.

Says the righty. You think the Department of Homeland Security is going anywhere?

The policies that stick are the bipartisan policies, like the FDA.

Re: Reasons Why Hillary Clinton Will Not Be The Democratic Nominee for President

Bill Thompson — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:21:23 GMT

Ego:

Good catch, it did seem... strange. Probably an Obama supporter posting this on every possible political forum.

No, I am not. Just anti-Hillary. And posting on many forums is not spamming.

Re: Reasons Why Hillary Clinton Will Not Be The Democratic Nominee for President

Bill Thompson — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:19:53 GMT

Ego:

She'd be better than Obama; she couldn't get anything done.

So what Obama could do would be bad and Hillary at least would not damage anything because she cannot get anything done? I am not sure that is logical. Is this what you mean?

Re: Reasons Why Hillary Clinton Will Not Be The Democratic Nominee for President

mr_anonymous — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:55:53 GMT

Ego:

Leftist policies are nearly impossible to dismantle; rightist policies are so much easier.

I agree. How long did it take to get rid of most of the New Deal programs? Oh.. wait, the majority of them are still here, and the ones that are gone have only been replaced, not eliminated.

I also think that Hilary would have a hard time getting anything done because the right flat out hates her. It doesnt matter what she wants to push, the right will oppose it soley because it is Hilary. It's politics.

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Re: Reasons Why Hillary Clinton Will Not Be The Democratic Nominee for President

Ego — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:29:45 GMT

Leftist policies are nearly impossible to dismantle; rightist policies are so much easier.

And what do you mean by "killing arabs"?

Re: Reasons Why Hillary Clinton Will Not Be The Democratic Nominee for President

Bostwick — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:15:04 GMT

Ego:

She'd be better than Obama; she couldn't get anything done.

Not true.

She could persue any "conservative" policy unopposed. When Bush kills arabs he atleast is met by nominal resistence. Hillary would be cheered from the right and left.

Re: Reasons Why Hillary Clinton Will Not Be The Democratic Nominee for President

ViennaSausage — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:38:59 GMT

I think that is only one reason.

Re: Reasons Why Hillary Clinton Will Not Be The Democratic Nominee for President

Bill Thompson — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:03:10 GMT

BlackSheep:

This guy has spam at least a couple of other forums:

http://www.captaincynic.com/thread/78936/reasons-why-hillary-clinton-will-not-be-the-democratic-nominee-for-president.htm

http://www.libertylounge.net/forums/29654-reasons-why-hillary-clinton-will-not.html

I'm sure we'll see this text posted in a lot more...

Posting in many forums is not spamming

Re: Reasons Why Hillary Clinton Will Not Be The Democratic Nominee for President

Bill Thompson — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:02:44 GMT

BlackSheep:

This guy has spam at least a couple of other forums:

http://www.captaincynic.com/thread/78936/reasons-why-hillary-clinton-will-not-be-the-democratic-nominee-for-president.htm

http://www.libertylounge.net/forums/29654-reasons-why-hillary-clinton-will-not.html

I'm sure we'll see this text posted in a lot more...

There is nothing wrong with that.

Re: Reasons Why Hillary Clinton Will Not Be The Democratic Nominee for President

Bill Thompson — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:00:57 GMT

BlackSheep:

This guy has spam at least a couple of other forums:

http://www.captaincynic.com/thread/78936/reasons-why-hillary-clinton-will-not-be-the-democratic-nominee-for-president.htm

http://www.libertylounge.net/forums/29654-reasons-why-hillary-clinton-will-not.html

I'm sure we'll see this text posted in a lot more...

Posting in several forums is not spamming.

Re: Reasons Why Hillary Clinton Will Not Be The Democratic Nominee for President

Bill Thompson — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:00:32 GMT

mr_anonymous:

Are you inferring that a Bill Clinton presidency was good?

No I am not.

But, like other socialist leaders, he made people feel good about themselves.