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Re: Revisiting Waco

Wilmot of Rochester — Sat, 27 Mar 2010 05:05:38 GMT

Jeremiah Dyke:

Just finished watching Waco: The Rules of Engagement and feel slightly nauseas. Has the American people simply forgot about this incident?

That film is a good example as to why libertarian efforts to just be left alone by the government would probably fail.

Can't just drop out of society; not because it might not work, but because the government won't let you - your assumed productive capacities are their productive capacities.

Welcome to national politics circa Treaty of Westphalia.

Re: Revisiting Waco

onebornfree — Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:16:35 GMT

Jeremiah Dyke:

Just finished watching Waco: The Rules of Engagement and feel slightly nauseas. Has the American people simply forgot about this incident?

It's been a few years since I saw that movie.

I cannot remember if it was in the one you saw [Waco: The Rules of Engagement], or perhaps a follow-up to that, but one of the two movies about Waco that I've seen showed footage taken at night from an overhead F.B.I. [or military] helicopter running a forward looking infra-red camera system [F.L.I.R] , which clearly shows, as the fire quickly devastates the main building of the church, fleeing inhabitants trying to escape via a rear exit being shot down in cold blood as they do so .

The government's F.L.I.R. system clearly shows the multiple muzzle flashes from the various F.B.I sniper locations directly outside the rear exit of the church [or "compound" in FBI vernacular] .

A massacre, no more, no less. Very disturbing- still, all these years later.

P.S McVeigh was probably railroaded -one thing is certain, he received a fair trial in no way , shape or form - more than likely he was just a convenient, innocent scapegoat to bolster the states story about both Waco and OKC.

Regards, onebornfree

Re: Revisiting Waco

Jeremiah Dyke — Fri, 26 Mar 2010 17:00:21 GMT

Watching the footage of the physiological warfare being conducted against the men, women and children nearly made me cry. Hearing the sounds of rabbits being tortured and screaming animals blasted from police speakers outside the compound with flickering lights (to disrupt sleep patterns) is beyond cruel. Thinking of my own child and the fear that those children must of went through as they looked at their parents for answers.

Where’s the f*ing justice?

Re: Revisiting Waco

Stranger — Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:30:09 GMT

See on the nature of power below.

Re: Revisiting Waco

Mtn Dew — Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:28:25 GMT

Yes, although I'm not entirely sure most Americans were all that upset when it originally happened.

I visited the OKC bombing memorial and nary a word was mentioned regarding the motives behind it. While OKC was an evil act by a twisted man, it was only marginally worse than what the Feds did to the people in Waco.

Revisiting Waco

Jeremiah Dyke — Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:12:07 GMT

Just finished watching Waco: The Rules of Engagement and feel slightly nauseas. Has the American people simply forgot about this incident?