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Re: The Proles - Similar to Another Group?

limitgov — Thu, 08 Jul 2010 16:27:23 GMT

"Illegal immigrants?"

yes....especially when he talks about how the police leave them alone....

they don't have to follow the same laws and Winston and the others...

the Proles are left alone and givin more freedom.

Re: The Proles - Similar to Another Group?

Praetyre — Thu, 08 Jul 2010 07:19:45 GMT

Illegal immigrants?

Re: The Proles - Similar to Another Group?

Smiling Dave — Thu, 08 Jul 2010 04:39:37 GMT

Which group is that?

BTW, Orwell wrote his book not with mystical inspiration that showed him the future, but by extrapolating from the state of the world in 1949.

The Proles - Similar to Another Group?

limitgov — Thu, 08 Jul 2010 01:27:06 GMT

Excert about the Proles from 1984

"they were born, they grew up in the gutters, they went to work at 12, they passed through a brief blossoming period of beauty and sexual desire, they married at 20, they were middle aged at 30, they died, for the most part, at 60. Heavy physical work, the care of home and children, petty quarrels with neighbors, films, football, beer, and, above all, gambling filled up the horizon of their minds.

To keep them in control was not difficult....no attempt was made to indoctrinate them with the ideology of the party. It was not desirable that the proles should have strong political feelings. All that was required of them was a primitive patriotism which could be appealed to whenever it was necessary to make them accept longer working hours and shorter rations. And even when they became discontented, as they sometimes did, their discontent led nowhere, because, being without general ideas, they could only focus it on petty specific grievances...Even the civil police interfered with them very little."

This group, the Proles, sounds alot like another group (that is left alone by the police) we know here in America.