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Re: Rand, Friedman, and IP

John James — Thu, 14 Apr 2011 21:40:43 GMT

nirgrahamUK:
Maybe e-mail David and ask if he has any good snaps of his Father that he wouldn't mind declaring free for reuse.

Now that's a great idea. It would be great to have a decent one to use for Wikipedia. The one currently there is such a low resolution it can't be used for much (it looks blurry even in the infobox...however it has been ok'd for any use, so long as freetochoosemedia.org gets credit) I always liked this one...but have no idea who owns it. It was removed from the Wikipedia page a while back. (How stupid is all this?)

Re: Rand, Friedman, and IP

nirgrahamUK — Thu, 14 Apr 2011 19:07:41 GMT

Maybe e-mail David and ask if he has any good snaps of his Father that he wouldn't mind declaring free for reuse.

Re: Rand, Friedman, and IP

Nielsio — Thu, 14 Apr 2011 18:45:39 GMT

nirgrahamUK:

Maybe contact the guy who made this press release and ask about the license on the photo ?

http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/06/061116.friedman.shtml

Got an answer:

"Can you describe the use of this photo (in what publication, for what duration, size?)"

So certainly not free use, and I won't be using it in my video, which I want to be able to be freely copied and mixed.

Re: Rand, Friedman, and IP

Anarcho-libertarian — Thu, 14 Apr 2011 09:01:19 GMT

John James:

But there are plenty of "fan videos" made using copyrighted characters and storylines (such as this one using DC Comics characters) in which no permission from Warner Bros. or DC was granted.

Perhaps this qualifies under fair use, or it may even be different since it's just the names and likenesses and not any actual images (i.e. all the footage is original).

I read that fan-made videos, artwork, stories, etc. are illegal but the companies don't sue because it would instantly turn the fans into enemies.

Re: Rand, Friedman, and IP

John James — Thu, 14 Apr 2011 03:36:53 GMT

Nielsio, I would actually email Kinsella or another expert about this. I'm not sure how or where the line is drawn, but there is something to be said for you not making any money off of it. (I mean, if you're looking to sell what you're planning on making, then obviously this wouldn't work). But there are plenty of "fan videos" made using copyrighted characters and storylines (such as this one using DC Comics characters) in which no permission from Warner Bros. or DC was granted.

Perhaps this qualifies under fair use, or it may even be different since it's just the names and likenesses and not any actual images (i.e. all the footage is original). But I think it's definitely worth it to send over an email describing what you'd like to do and see what your options are.

Re: Rand, Friedman, and IP

Nielsio — Thu, 14 Apr 2011 02:34:01 GMT

Amazing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Windows_7.png

Requirements for Allowed Uses

For permission to be granted by Microsoft for any uses allowed by these guidelines, you must comply with the following four requirements:

If your use includes references to a Microsoft product, you must use the full name of the product. When referencing any Microsoft trademarks, follow the General Microsoft Trademark Guidelines.
You must include the following statement: "Used with permission from Microsoft."
Your use may not be obscene or pornographic, and you may not be disparaging, defamatory, or libelous to Microsoft, any of its products, or any other person or entity.

Screenshots

If you wish to benefit from Microsoft's automatic permission grant, you may not use screen shots of Microsoft product boot-up screens, opening screens, "splash screens," or screens from beta release products or other products that have not been commercially released. You may use other screen shots in advertising, in documentation (including educational brochures), in tutorial books, in videotapes, or on Web sites, provided that, in addition to the requirements above, you:

Do not alter the screen shot except to resize it.
Do not use portions of screen shots.
Do not include screen shots in your product user interface.
Do not use screen shots that contain third-party content.
Do not use screen shots that contain an image of an identifiable individual.

Re: Rand, Friedman, and IP

Nielsio — Thu, 14 Apr 2011 01:39:42 GMT

nirgrahamUK:

ha, technology fail.

Well, they have regular email addresses: http://news.uchicago.edu/contact

About the youtube video's, the ones of which there are multiple copies with tens of thousands of views each, that have been hosted for a few years would probably render them 'fair use' regardless of the 'official' copyright positions I would have thought (but I'm no expert!)

I believe 'fair use' really means "the judges will decide" and nothing more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use

The thing about the videos having been on YT for a long time seems a myth. You don't need to file or contend copyrights to have/keep them, I believe that only applies to patents/trademarks.

edit: Mail sent.

Re: Rand, Friedman, and IP

nirgrahamUK — Thu, 14 Apr 2011 01:00:35 GMT

ha, technology fail.

Well, they have regular email addresses: http://news.uchicago.edu/contact

About the youtube video's, the ones of which there are multiple copies with tens of thousands of views each, that have been hosted for a few years would probably render them 'fair use' regardless of the 'official' copyright positions I would have thought (but I'm no expert!)

Re: Rand, Friedman, and IP

Nielsio — Thu, 14 Apr 2011 00:47:28 GMT

nirgrahamUK:

Maybe contact the guy who made this press release and ask about the license on the photo ?

http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/06/061116.friedman.shtml

Tried to email them using their web-form about that image's license status -> got an error from their server.

Could you take screenshots from the better youtube vids as another option?

All the free to choose, etc, materials are copyrighted. Even the Open Mind interviews from 1975 and 1977, which are freely distributed ( http://www.thirteen.org/openmind/, http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=milton%20friedman%20AND%20collection%3Anewsandpublicaffairs ), are still copyrighted and not free to copy/modify.

Re: Rand, Friedman, and IP

nirgrahamUK — Thu, 14 Apr 2011 00:21:08 GMT

Maybe contact the guy who made this press release and ask about the license on the photo ?

http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/06/061116.friedman.shtml

Could you take screenshots from the better youtube vids as another option?

Re: Rand, Friedman, and IP

Nielsio — Thu, 14 Apr 2011 00:02:17 GMT

Metus:

Like the pictures posted on Wikimedia Commons?

Wikimedia Commons provides exactly 1 picture and it's of Milton Friedman:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Friedman_dinner.jpg

You can barely recognize him on it.

Hi, I'm an editor with Wikipedia. We have a good article on Milton Friedman, but no free image. I was wondering if we could use your image, http://www.flickr.com/photos/littlebebe/28883327/, and crop it to only show Mr. Friedman. We can only use "free" images, which means if you agree, it has to be usable and editable by anyone, even for commercial purposes. But if we can use the image, we'll certainly link back to your Flickr page. What do you say? Do you agree?

She responded:

Yes , you can use my picture, but I prefer my picture link from flickr link to it.

Re: Rand, Friedman, and IP

Metus — Wed, 13 Apr 2011 22:54:55 GMT

Like the pictures posted on Wikimedia Commons?

Re: Rand, Friedman, and IP

Nielsio — Wed, 13 Apr 2011 22:37:04 GMT

By freely usable I mean creative commons or something similar. Ones that you can use in your own video without violating copyright.

Re: Rand, Friedman, and IP

DanielMuff — Wed, 13 Apr 2011 22:11:58 GMT

** shrugs shoulders** 1436?

Rand, Friedman, and IP

Nielsio — Wed, 13 Apr 2011 21:09:19 GMT

How many freely usable pictures of Ayn Rand or Milton Friedman do you think you can find?