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Re: The Most Libertarian Web Browser Is ... Firefox

Chris — Sun, 05 Jun 2011 06:36:05 GMT

No arguments from me about any of the above. I've got nothing against Chrome or Chromium. But Firefox is a 100% open-source project, and is arguably the best browser out there with v4. Mozilla also does much to maintain a free and open web. Great group of folks on that project.

Re: The Most Libertarian Web Browser Is ... Firefox

John James — Sun, 05 Jun 2011 05:58:44 GMT

I was just pointing out that Chromium is Google Chrome at its base. You said you don't want to use Chrome because it's not open source...but a great deal of that source code was released and turned into an open source project. That's what Chromium is.

Re: The Most Libertarian Web Browser Is ... Firefox

Chris — Sun, 05 Jun 2011 05:52:01 GMT

Yeah, but Chromium's a bit... crashy for me. :)

Re: The Most Libertarian Web Browser Is ... Firefox

John James — Sat, 04 Jun 2011 00:28:47 GMT

Chris:
I also have a special place in my heart for open-source, which is why I don't use Google Chrome (also good software, mind you).

You have heard of Chromium, right?

Re: The Most Libertarian Web Browser Is ... Firefox

Chris — Fri, 03 Jun 2011 22:56:12 GMT

Score one for open source software! I use Firefox 4 with Fedora 14 and it works great. I also have a special place in my heart for open-source, which is why I don't use Google Chrome (also good software, mind you).

Re: The Most Libertarian Web Browser Is ... Firefox

Anton — Fri, 03 Jun 2011 21:56:19 GMT

Firefox is a true libertarian browser as it gives freedom in adding to browser features that ultimate user, not developer, wants. Sure, it has its disadvantages: big memory usage, windows-like interface (even in Firefox 4 there remains its signs, in comparison to, for instance, Opera which I used until after an update caused fatal crashes with funny journeys to BIOS). But again, addons, that make my life much easier in some respects, are the reason why I became a Firefox user

Re: The Most Libertarian Web Browser Is ... Firefox

DanielMuff — Fri, 03 Jun 2011 21:00:13 GMT

Vitor:

Well, Firefox 4 is much faster than the previous versions, and I'm glad for that.

It looks a lot nicer too. At least on Win7.

Re: The Most Libertarian Web Browser Is ... Firefox

Autolykos — Fri, 03 Jun 2011 18:03:57 GMT

aervew:
Uhh, firefox is a perfect example of open source goody-goody naive coding faimily failure. Release after release, more useless badly optimized crap gets added on, without a clear vision, inefficient flexible open source libraries are used for interfacing and backbone for the good of the "community" and what you end up with is a crippled slow piece of shit. Similar argument goes for chromium, except its main bog is the memory usage.

Feel free to not use it.

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Re: The Most Libertarian Web Browser Is ... Firefox

Vitor — Fri, 03 Jun 2011 18:01:04 GMT

Well, Firefox 4 is much faster than the previous versions, and I'm glad for that.

Re: The Most Libertarian Web Browser Is ... Firefox

aervew — Fri, 03 Jun 2011 17:48:50 GMT

Firefox, is, to me, an excellent argument against the scaremongering of the Randian/corporatist crowd vis a vis IP abolition. I'd be astounded if Silicon Valley turned out to be anything ideologically different from Berkeley, Sacramento or the rest of SoCal, but at least it's a strong step in the right direction, and I strongly sympathize with the cyber civil-libertarians, who I'd criticize only on the points of rallying behind Ted Kennedy's "net neutrality" band-aid and failing to expand out to Western Europe, where the latest media-manufactured hysteria is regarding violent online video games and politically incorrect political opinions.

Firefox does have an official hosting site for addons, from which they can be expurgated. The full version of SkipScreen, for instance, has been relegated elsewhere due to the lobbying of MegaUpload and other file sharing sites.

Uhh, firefox is a perfect example of open source goody-goody naive coding faimily failure. Release after release, more useless badly optimized crap gets added on, without a clear vision, inefficient flexible open source libraries are used for interfacing and backbone for the good of the "community" and what you end up with is a crippled slow piece of shit. Similar argument goes for chromium, except its main bog is the memory usage.

Re: The Most Libertarian Web Browser Is ... Firefox

Isaac "Izzy" Marmolejo — Fri, 03 Jun 2011 11:25:58 GMT

cool beans...you're welcome

Re: The Most Libertarian Web Browser Is ... Firefox

John James — Fri, 03 Jun 2011 11:06:37 GMT

Thank you. If you would have just provided that link to begin with I wouldn't have had to keep asking for it (which you referred to as me "repeating the same thing over again"), and you wouldn't have had to get "tired of repeating yourself".

Re: The Most Libertarian Web Browser Is ... Firefox

Isaac "Izzy" Marmolejo — Fri, 03 Jun 2011 11:00:19 GMT

no, you just keep repeating the same thing over again, but clearly, if they have one of the heads of the legal department on the case, the legal department is working on this case. I guess if you want something that says 'legal department' or 'legal team' on it, look at this article. But that blog post is all that was really need to justify what I have already said. and note that it is filed under 'legal'

the last post was not meant to be serious, by the way.I frankly, just got tired of repeating myself

Re: The Most Libertarian Web Browser Is ... Firefox

John James — Fri, 03 Jun 2011 10:46:37 GMT

Strawmen? Seriously? You sound like those people who accuse anarcho-capitalists of being in favor of chaos...or that saying law enforcement shouldn't be able to write its own warrants means you're in favor of terrorists getting weapons.

Obviously I'm not implying you made up the story. I'm talking about the part that you are avoiding...the part I asked you about...the part about the "legal team working the case". All I asked was where is there any mention of a legal team at all. And you characterize my question as if I was accusing you of faking the whole story.

I guess that removes any doubt.

Re: The Most Libertarian Web Browser Is ... Firefox

Isaac "Izzy" Marmolejo — Fri, 03 Jun 2011 10:42:03 GMT

yes, i made eveything up, the articles, the blog post, everything... you caught me