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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>General</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/27.aspx</link><description>Everything else.</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP2 (Build: 40407.4157)</generator><item><title>Re: Former FBI Chief Says Chemtrails must Stop</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/424800.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:41:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:424800</guid><dc:creator>Em_ptySkin</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/424800.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=27&amp;PostID=424800</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	bump.&lt;/p&gt;
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	?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Former FBI Chief Says Chemtrails must Stop</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/424662.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 06:18:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:424662</guid><dc:creator>Em_ptySkin</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/424662.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=27&amp;PostID=424662</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;You know what the most common argumentative mistake people have?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not looking things up before instigating the issue&amp;nbsp;or&amp;nbsp;calling fallacy.&amp;nbsp; Although,&amp;nbsp;I must say that the people who are trying to call attention to a polarizing topic may do well by at least finding it in the documents available.&amp;nbsp; And refer to it as something other than an obvious obfuscatory political label (like &amp;quot;chemtrails&amp;quot;)&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.cfr.org/content/thinktank/GeoEng_Jan2709.pdf"&gt;http://www.cfr.org/content/thinktank/GeoEng_Jan2709.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align="left"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT;font-size:large;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT;font-size:large;"&gt;Unilateral Geoengineering&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align="left"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;"&gt;Non-technical Briefing Notes for a Workshop&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align="left"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;"&gt;At the &lt;strong&gt;Council on Foreign Relations&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align="left"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;"&gt;Washington DC, May 05, 2008&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align="left"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;"&gt;Katharine Ricke, M. Granger Morgan and Jay Apt,&lt;strong&gt; Carnegie Mellon&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align="left"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;"&gt;David Victor, &lt;strong&gt;Stanford&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;"&gt;John &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;color:#000730;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;color:#000730;"&gt;Steinbruner&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;"&gt;, &lt;strong&gt;University of Maryland&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.cfr.org/content/thinktank/GeoEng_Jan2709.pdf"&gt;http://www.cfr.org/content/thinktank/GeoEng_Jan2709.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Read that and understand what it is.&amp;nbsp; Do you think &amp;#39;those&amp;#39; people would actually refer to it as &amp;#39;chemtrails&amp;#39;?&amp;nbsp; They think we are too stupid to understand the biting rhetoric of their obscure&amp;nbsp;white papers.&amp;nbsp; They think they are saving us from global warming (or at least they &lt;em&gt;say&lt;/em&gt; they &lt;em&gt;think&lt;/em&gt; are).&amp;nbsp; Hope you&amp;#39;re not a global warming crusader...&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Selected quotes:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;"&gt;There are a variety of strategies, such as injecting light-reflecting particles into the&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align="left"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;"&gt;stratosphere, that might be used to modify the Earth&amp;rsquo;s atmosphere-ocean system in an&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;"&gt;attempt to slow or reverse global warming.&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Assuming&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; that we are lucky and that the world is spared rapid and unexpected climate
&lt;p&gt;surprises&amp;quot; (haha)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;"&gt;If albedo-adjusting geoengineering were to proceed for an extended period while CO&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;font-size:xx-small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;font-size:xx-small;"&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;"&gt;
&lt;p align="left"&gt;emissions continued or grew, &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;cessation&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; of geoengineering could yield &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;rapid, large and&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;damaging&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; shocks to the climate system&lt;/em&gt;.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;"&gt;More recent analysis&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;font-size:xx-small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;font-size:xx-small;"&gt;5 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;"&gt;has suggested&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align="left"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;"&gt;that well designed systems might reduce this cost to as little as a few hundred million&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align="left"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;"&gt;dollars per year &amp;ndash; clearly well within the budget of almost all nations, and much less&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align="left"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;"&gt;costly than any program to dramatically reduce the emissions of CO&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;font-size:xx-small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;font-size:xx-small;"&gt;2 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;"&gt;. &lt;em&gt;Indeed, there are a&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align="left"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;handful of individuals&lt;/strong&gt; who could create the &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;endowment&lt;/span&gt; necessary to generate an annual&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;annuity to operate such a program&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;span style="display:none;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;(Carnegie Mellon [contributing author]&amp;nbsp;| High Finance/ [Carnegie] Endowment for world peace.&amp;nbsp; My guess is this is the &lt;em&gt;type&lt;/em&gt; of organization he is talking about.&amp;nbsp; He won&amp;#39;t admit to it because he doesn&amp;#39;t want his conflict of interest to be &lt;em&gt;too&lt;/em&gt; apparent.&amp;nbsp; They already exist and they were started by, currently funded by, and named after those individuals and the money that is attached and spread among those connected.&amp;nbsp; [Ford Foundation, Carnegie Endowment, Rockefellers Foundation/Brothers Fund]. (I&amp;#39;d refer you to Murray Rothbards &amp;quot;&lt;em&gt;Wall Street, Banks, and American Foreign Policy,&amp;quot; &lt;/em&gt;and&lt;em&gt; &amp;quot;History of Money and Banking in the U.S&lt;/em&gt;.&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp;especially for the Council on Foreign Relations creation, staffing, and history, just so you know the level of power broking that the walls of that hall are used to accomodating.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;People need not mention conspiracy theory.&amp;nbsp; The world is complex and the circles of decision making are so far removed from public eye that the first thing that the average alienated working (or unemployed) joe or the lay intellectual&amp;nbsp;thinks is that, &amp;quot;There is no way that I would not have heard about this.&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;There is no way that the people in power would ever...(insert horrific scenario and response by our gracious , humble, wise, and otherwise godly politicians can contrive.)&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;"&gt;Get real with your reptilians.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Former FBI Chief Says Chemtrails must Stop</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/424646.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 05:19:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:424646</guid><dc:creator>Valject</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/424646.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=27&amp;PostID=424646</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	I&amp;#39;m choosing to believe that part and nothing else, because that would be cool.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Former FBI Chief Says Chemtrails must Stop</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/424559.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 19:34:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:424559</guid><dc:creator>DanielMuff</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/424559.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=27&amp;PostID=424559</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I just don&amp;#39;t believe the part of about the reptilian humanoids.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Former FBI Chief Says Chemtrails must Stop</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/424526.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 13:02:19 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:424526</guid><dc:creator>MaikU</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/424526.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=27&amp;PostID=424526</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	Appeal to authority - the most frequent logical fallacy commited by conspiracy theorists.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Former FBI Chief Says Chemtrails must Stop</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/424473.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 01:20:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:424473</guid><dc:creator>limitgov</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/424473.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=27&amp;PostID=424473</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR6KVYJ73AU&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded#at=23"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR6KVYJ73AU&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded#at=23&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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	Any of you still deny chemtrails?&amp;nbsp; I guess it doesn&amp;#39;t matter anymore...this guy is more credible than you.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>