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Re: My Dad just endorsed Romney...

Marko — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 16:37:18 GMT

have no idea what to do, and in a way, I feel like I've failed, being that I spent so many months telling my parents about the significance of libertarianism in these times and spitting in the face of the system.

What you should do is quit on your family. Some people may not be saved, concentrate on those who may be. Sign up for the Mises Community Blog project and spend your efforts on explaining the significance of libertarianism for the masses of the world. Albeit you don't have to give up on your folks completly. You can pass them a link to the blog and tell them to follow your stuff. Parents are suckers for that kind of thing. Once they see you making serious-like points and getting comments they'll get all teary-eyed and proud-like and they'll turn die-hard Paulians on the outside, just so they can tell all your neighbours how their boy is 'making some damn good sense on them interwebs!'

Re: My Dad just endorsed Romney...

Malachi — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 01:51:13 GMT

Andrew Cain:
So you feel like you failed because they aren't doing what you expected? Don't feel that way. You cannot control the actions of others. Be who you are and be happy with who you are.

Andrew Cain is right. And, romney will actually be slightly better for business than o. Its not popular around here but its true.

Re: My Dad just endorsed Romney...

SkepticalMetal — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 01:37:26 GMT

@ kelvin silva

Yes but the problem is that he says his conscience IS what is prompting him to vote for Romneybot, and that's it's telling him that the best thing to do is to use this as a chance to vote out Obama. He even admits I'm probably right, so I don't have much now.

Re: My Dad just endorsed Romney...

Andrew Cain — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 01:36:42 GMT

So you feel like you failed because they aren't doing what you expected? Don't feel that way. You cannot control the actions of others. Be who you are and be happy with who you are.

Re: My Dad just endorsed Romney...

Aristippus — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 01:33:55 GMT

Don't worry about it. His vote is even more wasted voting for Romney than it is for Johnson so what does it matter?

Re: My Dad just endorsed Romney...

Kelvin Silva — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 01:33:52 GMT

Voting isnt a sport, should vote his conscience and what he thinks is right, not for who will "win".

Re: My Dad just endorsed Romney...

SkepticalMetal — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 01:30:49 GMT

@ ThatOldGuy

He doesn't think The Anatomy of the State is crap, he liked it. It's just that...he feels as though having Obama in the White House is dangerous, and we have to do whatever we can to vote him out. I don't fully understand it myself, but he always resorts to "It's my vote, and I think writing in Ron Paul or voting for Gary Johnson is a wasted one."

@ Andrew Cain

I feel like I've failed because ever since mid 2011 when I first got interested in all of this stuff I've been telling my parents about Ron Paul and the various aspects of libertarianism, and I thought that for a long time I had them convinced that the two-party dictatorship was crap and that nothing good could ever come out of voting with the system.

Re: My Dad just endorsed Romney...

ThatOldGuy — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 01:26:52 GMT

Would you clarify what you mean?

Re: My Dad just endorsed Romney...

SkepticalMetal — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 01:26:33 GMT

@ TronCat

I think the Godfather can also express how I feel, too.

Re: My Dad just endorsed Romney...

Andrew Cain — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 01:24:57 GMT

Why do you feel like you failed?

Re: My Dad just endorsed Romney...

ThatOldGuy — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 01:23:20 GMT

He thinks Anatomy of the State is crap?!

With regard to trying to convert your parents and all, I think the Matrix rule applies:

Morpheus:
We have a rule. We never free a mind once it's reached a certain age. It's dangerous, the mind has trouble letting go.

Re: My Dad just endorsed Romney...

SkepticalMetal — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 01:22:21 GMT

lol...yeah.

Re: My Dad just endorsed Romney...

TronCat — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 01:22:10 GMT

You think they get out of the mindset, and then it's like they get dragged back in.

"Just when I thought I was out... they pull me back in!"

- Michael Corleone

Re: My Dad just endorsed Romney...

Kelvin Silva — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 01:19:34 GMT

Fok.

Well, just wait and see, if romney gets elected and the country's spiral down toward the ground accelerates even further, you can look back and say "i told you so".

Re: My Dad just endorsed Romney...

SkepticalMetal — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 01:17:04 GMT

Guess what? He's read it.

Crap.