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Re: Bohm-Bawerk committed suicide?

Anenome — Sat, 01 Dec 2012 14:13:23 GMT

I had a mild thrombosis once in my leg. Hobbled me for a month, could barely walk :( Painful. Kept attending classes tho.

Re: Bohm-Bawerk committed suicide?

Kakugo — Sat, 01 Dec 2012 12:56:57 GMT

According to his biography on mises.de ( http://www.mises.de/public_home/topic/6 ) he had been suffering of a serious ailment for about a year before his death. He died at Kramsach, where he had gone on vacation, was buried there and later his body was moved to the Zentralfriedhof in Wien. No mention of a suicide and, given the seriousness of his illness (following a thrombosis), he probably died of natural causes.

The Zentrlfriedhof is the largest cemetery in Wien and it's known as the final resting place of Brahms, Schubert and Beethoven, not to mention most of the Strauss family members.

Re: Bohm-Bawerk committed suicide?

Aristippus — Sat, 01 Dec 2012 06:54:28 GMT

But Bohm-Bawerk really did die in August 1914!! Also, no one got my joke about Crown Prince Rudolf.

Re: Bohm-Bawerk committed suicide?

AJ — Sat, 01 Dec 2012 06:50:08 GMT

Maybe Mises, still learning English at the time, meant Bohm-Bawerk committed "career suicide" (by supporting Menger) and Rothbard misunderstood his intent.

Re: Bohm-Bawerk committed suicide?

Groucho — Sat, 01 Dec 2012 06:42:17 GMT

Ok, Rothbard says it at about 55:55 in the lecture, and is apparently quoting from Mises "notes and recollections" from an autobiography he wrote in 1940.

I'm not sure if he's quoting it as a historical fact, as Rothbard says that Mises was distraught and depressed at the time due to having just barely escaped the Nazis and losing everything, starting out broke and jobless in America.

Re: Bohm-Bawerk committed suicide?

fegeldolfy — Sat, 01 Dec 2012 06:16:54 GMT

Bohm Bawerk, not Menger.

Re: Bohm-Bawerk committed suicide?

Neodoxy — Sat, 01 Dec 2012 06:12:56 GMT

I've never heard that and I read two economic histories which mentioned Menger's life and works. I remember that he died in relative despair because WWI was an uncool time to be alive, but I never heard mention of suicide.

Edit

Oh right. No clue on Bawerk... Wiki says nothing? :P

Re: Bohm-Bawerk committed suicide?

fegeldolfy — Sat, 01 Dec 2012 06:05:42 GMT

It's around when he's talking about Mises's life. I think it's right when Mises fled the Nazis for America.

Re: Bohm-Bawerk committed suicide?

Groucho — Sat, 01 Dec 2012 06:02:10 GMT

BTW, I'm listening to that lecture now (love it when Murray himself speaks!). Can you tell me approximately what the timestamp is when he makes that statement?

Re: Bohm-Bawerk committed suicide?

Aristippus — Sat, 01 Dec 2012 05:54:02 GMT

I guess Carl Menger has that effect on people.

Re: Bohm-Bawerk committed suicide?

fegeldolfy — Sat, 01 Dec 2012 05:53:23 GMT

Yeah well I posted it in the "General" section and then went to the active topics section, but then I saw it wasn't there, so I bumped it so it would be there.

Re: Bohm-Bawerk committed suicide?

Groucho — Sat, 01 Dec 2012 05:52:20 GMT

A 1 minute bump? That's got to be a record.

Re: Bohm-Bawerk committed suicide?

fegeldolfy — Sat, 01 Dec 2012 05:47:03 GMT

just bumping this so it goes into active topics

Bohm-Bawerk committed suicide?

fegeldolfy — Sat, 01 Dec 2012 05:46:14 GMT

In Rothbard's "Mises in One Lesson", he mentions that Menger withdrew from economics and Bohm-Bawerk commited suicide because of World War 1, which destoroyed the liberalism of the 19th century. Is this true?