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Re: Objectivist Party

duffmann808 — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:10:00 GMT

Marko:

Nick. B:

So can Objectivist ever be our (AnCaps) allies or are they a deadly enemy that should be fought?

No need to fight them, they are too insignificant.

As are you.

Re: Objectivist Party

ryanpatgray — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:14:25 GMT

Nick. B:

Libertine Joseph:
BTP = bunch of cry babies. Why even bother?

AnCaps shouldn't be loyal to a party, we should be loyal to the cause. One party may betray it's princilples so we should have a spare.

Well said, and if the BTP one day does betray its principles ancaps should leave it as well. So far, it has not.

Re: Objectivist Party

Nick. B — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:55:36 GMT

Libertine Joseph:
BTP = bunch of cry babies. Why even bother?

AnCaps shouldn't be loyal to a party, we should be loyal to the cause. One party may betray it's princilples so we should have a spare.

Re: Objectivist Party

banned — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:54:00 GMT

Libertine Joseph:
Splitting the vote won't achieve much.

But voting for a candidate in general does? Hah.

Re: Objectivist Party

ryanpatgray — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:15:03 GMT

Libertine Joseph:
ryanpatgray:

Libertine Joseph:
BTP = bunch of cry babies. Why even bother?

Buch of cry babies? You mean they are principled libertarians who are upset that the Libertarian Party is no longer libertarian.

Splitting the vote won't achieve much. I guess we can call them statists? hm

If "splitting the vote" is your concern feel free to vote for one of the two major party candidates. Or, if you want to be productive and not insult people you could support run-off elections or IRV.

Re: Objectivist Party

Libertine Joseph — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:05:49 GMT

ryanpatgray:
Libertine Joseph:
BTP = bunch of cry babies. Why even bother?

Buch of cry babies? You mean they are principled libertarians who are upset that the Libertarian Party is no longer libertarian.

Splitting the vote won't achieve much. I guess we can call them statists? hm

Re: Objectivist Party

ryanpatgray — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:48:41 GMT

Libertine Joseph:
BTP = bunch of cry babies. Why even bother?

Buch of cry babies? You mean they are principled libertarians who are upset that the Libertarian Party is no longer libertarian.

Re: Objectivist Party

Libertine Joseph — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:33:21 GMT

BTP = bunch of cry babies. Why even bother?

Re: Objectivist Party

ryanpatgray — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:20:54 GMT

Nick. B:
THIS YEAR HAS TO BE THE END OF THAT PERCEPTION, AND THAT'S UP TO US!

I agree, and if you have ideas on how to change that feel free to post them on this thread:http://mises.org/Community/forums/t/5150.aspx

Re: Objectivist Party

Nick. B — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:32:09 GMT

Nitroadict:
The force is strong with this one...

Just hope I don't turn out like Darth.

But seriously we have got to become more active. We can't just rely on education, WE HAVE TO DEMAND FREEDOM, WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER! I'm going to be blunt here: RIGHT NOW ANCAPS, ALONG WITH ALL OTHER ANARCHIST, ARE SEEN AS A JOKE, AND FOR THE MOST PART THEY'RE RIGHT! THIS YEAR HAS TO BE THE END OF THAT PERCEPTION, AND THAT'S UP TO US!

Re: Objectivist Party

Nitroadict — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:13:58 GMT

Nick. B:

Nitroadict:
IMO, those who are not of the ARI and/or of Peikoff's influence tend to me far more rational regarding their own philosophy, but obviously can there be exceptions.

I would deem those of The Atlas Society (whose founder was "banished" from "Objectivism" by it's elitists for simply holding civil conversation with libertarians) & Post-Objectivists to be allies.

I personally do not think the Elitist Collectivist Objectivists (those that apply) & the Neo-Objecticons would put up much of a fight, anyway. I think a good deal of them would retreat further into their collective meet-ups & schools out of bitterness.

Well DAMNIT, let's reach out to the ATLAS SOCIETY and POST-OBJECTIVIST, align with them, AND START FIGHTING!!!!!!

The force is strong with this one...

Re: Objectivist Party

Nick. B — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:00:05 GMT

Nitroadict:
IMO, those who are not of the ARI and/or of Peikoff's influence tend to me far more rational regarding their own philosophy, but obviously can there be exceptions.

I would deem those of The Atlas Society (whose founder was "banished" from "Objectivism" by it's elitists for simply holding civil conversation with libertarians) & Post-Objectivists to be allies.

I personally do not think the Elitist Collectivist Objectivists (those that apply) & the Neo-Objecticons would put up much of a fight, anyway. I think a good deal of them would retreat further into their collective meet-ups & schools out of bitterness.

Well DAMNIT, let's reach out to the ATLAS SOCIETY and POST-OBJECTIVIST, align with them, AND START FIGHTING!!!!!!

Re: Objectivist Party

Nitroadict — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:46:13 GMT

Nick. B:

Nitroadict:

Solid_Choke:

Marko:

Nick. B:

So can Objectivist ever be our (AnCaps) allies or are they a deadly enemy that should be fought?

No need to fight them, they are too insignificant.

At this point I think more people would agree to an Objectivist platform than an ancap one. Anyway, what is with all the Objectivist bashing? Is it really necessary to bash one of our closest allies?

I would hardly call Peikoff & the ARI allies.

Alright, there are points for Objectivists for being our allies and enemies. We have to settle this issue though. We have to began fighting for our desired society, otherwise we've already lost. The time for talking is ticking down fast. The question now is how we fight and who to target first!

IMO, those who are not of the ARI and/or of Peikoff's influence tend to me far more rational regarding their own philosophy, but obviously can there be exceptions.

I would deem those of The Atlas Society (whose founder was "banished" from "Objectivism" by it's elitists for simply holding civil conversation with libertarians) & Post-Objectivists to be allies.

I personally do not think the Elitist Collectivist Objectivists (those that apply) & the Neo-Objecticons would put up much of a fight, anyway. I think a good deal of them would retreat further into their collective meet-ups & schools out of bitterness.

Re: Objectivist Party

Nick. B — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:28:44 GMT

Nitroadict:

Solid_Choke:

Marko:

Nick. B:

So can Objectivist ever be our (AnCaps) allies or are they a deadly enemy that should be fought?

No need to fight them, they are too insignificant.

At this point I think more people would agree to an Objectivist platform than an ancap one. Anyway, what is with all the Objectivist bashing? Is it really necessary to bash one of our closest allies?

I would hardly call Peikoff & the ARI allies.

Alright, there are points for Objectivists for being our allies and enemies. We have to settle this issue though. We have to began fighting for our desired society, otherwise we've already lost. The time for talking is ticking down fast. The question now is how we fight and who to target first!

Re: Objectivist Party

Nitroadict — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:47:42 GMT

Solid_Choke:

Marko:

Nick. B:

So can Objectivist ever be our (AnCaps) allies or are they a deadly enemy that should be fought?

No need to fight them, they are too insignificant.

At this point I think more people would agree to an Objectivist platform than an ancap one. Anyway, what is with all the Objectivist bashing? Is it really necessary to bash one of our closest allies?

I would hardly call Peikoff & the ARI allies.