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Re: The Murder Clinic: one more lesson in the tyranny of government oversight

John James — Sat, 13 Apr 2013 05:50:01 GMT

LRC blog offers a yet another angle...

Pro-Life...Until Birth

Posted by Daniel McAdams on April 12, 2013 08:44 PM

It's rather disgusting to see the worst of the warmongering politicians clamoring for political points on the gruesome and breathtakingly macabre story of baby killer extraordinaire Kermit Gosnell, who seemed to take pleasure in his grisly profession of murder.

Witness Rep. Trent Franks, who jumped upon his Twittering high horse to machine gun his "pro-life" position into the faces of his "opponents" on the pro-death side:

Media fears #gosnell story will help people connect the dots: killing a baby in utero is no better than doing so moments later, after birth.

— Rep. Trent Franks (@RepTrentFranks) April 12, 2013

But Franks is in reality on the pro-death side as well. [...]

Re: The Murder Clinic: one more lesson in the tyranny of government oversight

Michel — Sat, 13 Apr 2013 01:31:52 GMT

One sad thing about this is that it is probably highly likely that, rather than admitting that government regulation and its attempt to control the market is futile and the idea that its legislation will guarantee safety is preposterous, politicians will say that, with only one more layer of bureaucracy, they and the government can prevent something like this from ever happening again; then, the masses will not only likely buy it but probably spread this propaganda.

And then the wiser of them will watch history repeat itself when something else happens and the politicians says with just one more layer of bureaucracy...

Yeah :(

Re: The Murder Clinic: one more lesson in the tyranny of government oversight

Michel — Sat, 13 Apr 2013 01:29:54 GMT

I hope this reduces public support for govt

I'm afraid that the exact opposite is going to happen. Those are the goddamned incentives of bureaucracy: the more incompetent they are, the more money they will take, and people will probably do nothing about it, because they supposedly need more money to (finally) become efficient. Try to think like the average Joe. Do you think he will see this piece of news and say "Damnit, we should have less government!"? Of course, "we should have no government" is out of the equation.

Re: The Murder Clinic: one more lesson in the tyranny of government oversight

Phi est aureum — Sat, 13 Apr 2013 01:29:08 GMT

One sad thing about this is that it is probably highly likely that, rather than admitting that government regulation and its attempt to control the market is futile and the idea that its legislation will guarantee safety is preposterous, politicians will say that, with only one more layer of bureaucracy, they and the government can prevent something like this from ever happening again; then, the masses will not only likely buy it but probably spread this propaganda.

And then the wiser of them will watch history repeat itself when something else happens and the politicians says with just one more layer of bureaucracy...

Re: The Murder Clinic: one more lesson in the tyranny of government oversight

Malachi — Sat, 13 Apr 2013 01:20:15 GMT

that assumption leads to confirmation bias. assume that people are self interested. the rest will follow.

Re: The Murder Clinic: one more lesson in the tyranny of government oversight

Blargg — Sat, 13 Apr 2013 01:14:25 GMT

Government is a potent concentration of power. All kinds of people have interests in controlling it for their own purposes. One should assume that every apparent failure, oversight, poor management, etc. is caused by one of these outside controlling interests. At any moment there are lots of people competing to have control.

Re: The Murder Clinic: one more lesson in the tyranny of government oversight

No2statism — Sat, 13 Apr 2013 01:03:13 GMT

Good question. The regulators could've been told to stand down because they wanted ethnic minorities to die for all I know... it's long been known that blacks have more abortions than whites. PA was one of the States that allegedly had "voting rights" issues.

Re: The Murder Clinic: one more lesson in the tyranny of government oversight

John James — Sat, 13 Apr 2013 00:55:04 GMT

No2statism:
Perhaps the regulators were told to stand down so that this stuff could happen...

Why

Re: The Murder Clinic: one more lesson in the tyranny of government oversight

No2statism — Sat, 13 Apr 2013 00:50:11 GMT

I hope this reduces public support for govt, because the govt is collecting money and then not putting it to protecting the public. Perhaps the regulators were told to stand down so that this stuff could happen... I think the BP oil spill was orchestrated and planned well before it happened.

Whether it will reduce public support, I don't know.

Re: The Murder Clinic: one more lesson in the tyranny of government oversight

John James — Sat, 13 Apr 2013 00:45:28 GMT

EmbraceLiberty:
Why the hell were people still going to this psycho?

a) Murder Clinics don't exist because the government wouldn't allow it. So you have no reason to fear you're walking into one.

b) We're talking about people who were likely very poor, in most cases pretty young, and almost always there to do something illegal, so it's not like they had a whole lot of options anyway.

Re: The Murder Clinic: one more lesson in the tyranny of government oversight

EmbraceLiberty — Sat, 13 Apr 2013 00:30:40 GMT

Why the hell were people still going to this psycho?

Re: The Murder Clinic: one more lesson in the tyranny of government oversight

gotlucky — Fri, 12 Apr 2013 22:58:21 GMT

Looks like someone didn't read to the end.

/jokes

Re: The Murder Clinic: one more lesson in the tyranny of government oversight

John James — Fri, 12 Apr 2013 22:57:15 GMT

"BUT WITHOUT THE PROPER STATE AGENCIES AND LICENSING REQUIREMENTS, WE'D HAVE UNTRAINED AND UNQUALIFIED PEOPLE TREATING PATIENTS AND PEOPLE COULD GET SICK OR EVEN DIE! WE NEED GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT TO MAKE SURE THESE THINGS DON'T HAPPEN! YOU GOTTA HAVE IT! OTHERWISE SOMEONE WOULD BE ABLE TO RUN A LITERAL MURDER CLINIC AND NEVER BE STOPPED!"

Re: The Murder Clinic: one more lesson in the tyranny of government oversight

Malachi — Fri, 12 Apr 2013 22:21:12 GMT

thats the most horrific thing I have ever read.

the good news about bamacare is that its unenforceable. govt is gonna phase itself out by expressing its own impotence with stupid legislation.

The Murder Clinic: one more lesson in the tyranny of government oversight

John James — Fri, 12 Apr 2013 22:03:45 GMT

Seriously. You just need to read this whole thing.

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