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Re: Can you violate the NAP and still be a libertarian?

Malachi — Mon, 22 Apr 2013 22:35:57 GMT

libertarianism isnt described as opposition to the state in whole or in part.

Re: Can you violate the NAP and still be a libertarian?

gatchaman — Mon, 22 Apr 2013 17:11:13 GMT

Is libertarianism entirely described as opposition to the state without any reference to the NAP?

Re: Can you violate the NAP and still be a libertarian?

gatchaman — Mon, 22 Apr 2013 17:10:52 GMT

Is libertarianism entirely described as opposition to the state without any reference to the NAP?

Re: Can you violate the NAP and still be a libertarian?

ToxicAssets — Mon, 22 Apr 2013 13:07:49 GMT

gotlucky:

Everyone acts in accordance with their beliefs and values 100% of the time. Whether they are aware of what their beliefs and values are or if they are honest with others about what they are is another matter entirely.

Well yeah ok.

Then let me rephrase it: no one can be 100% consistent in his actions and his asserted beliefs.

Of course everybody finds some sort of inner justification for their actions, but nobody is able to publicly justify all his actions through a comprehensive moral system. That would be not only very hard, but also very wasteful.

Re: Can you violate the NAP and still be a libertarian?

gotlucky — Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:40:30 GMT

Everyone acts in accordance with their beliefs and values 100% of the time. Whether they are aware of what their beliefs and values are or if they are honest with others about what they are is another matter entirely.

Re: Can you violate the NAP and still be a libertarian?

ToxicAssets — Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:47:40 GMT

Libertarianism is an abstract belief system.

Whoever tells he has 100% consistency in his beliefs and actions is a lying.

In real life, there are costs in being 100% consistent all the time, and sometimes these costs are too high to be affordable. More so, one can argue that every abstract belief system has, at some level, contradictions or paradoxes that make them impossible to follow perfectly in practice.

That's something all major religions acknowledge. The basic tenet of every religion is the imperfection and sinful condition of man and his incapacity to understand God's plan.

Re: Can you violate the NAP and still be a libertarian?

Aristophanes — Sat, 20 Apr 2013 01:15:45 GMT

if "libertarian" does not mean to any particular agent "strict adherent to the NAP" you could!

Re: Can you violate the NAP and still be a libertarian?

Neodoxy — Fri, 19 Apr 2013 23:57:38 GMT

It's an interesting question. I think that an equivalent would be "can a murderer be a Christian?".

Re: Can you violate the NAP and still be a libertarian?

gotlucky — Fri, 19 Apr 2013 22:29:30 GMT

As long as you attempt to right your wrongs, I don't see why not. For what it's worth, Walter Block holds the same view.

Can you violate the NAP and still be a libertarian?

No2statism — Fri, 19 Apr 2013 22:22:34 GMT

I was wondering what your thoughts are on that.