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Re: Is there a Ron Paul for the U.K?

Physiocrat — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:27:20 GMT

GilesStratton:

Physiocrat:
How about Princess Tony aka Anthony (Tony) Charles Linton Blair.

What about him? Nobody expected him to cure AIDS, cancer and poverty in a year as people do with Obama.

Well expectations were sky high in 1997. His was a similar kind of phenomenon as Obama but not as extreme. It may well have been if the UK had a Presidential system and was the most powerful country in the world.

Re: Is there a Ron Paul for the U.K?

seetheowl — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 16:50:43 GMT

also I think the entertainment there is a couple of pubs and a cinema. But its only a short boat trip to Wales!

Re: Is there a Ron Paul for the U.K?

hayekianxyz — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 20:04:18 GMT

Marko:
There is Obamamania in Europe too.

Unfortunately yes, but that sort of thing doesn't happen in Europe, Obamamania started in the U.S.A.

Re: Is there a Ron Paul for the U.K?

hayekianxyz — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 20:03:08 GMT

Physiocrat:
How about Princess Tony aka Anthony (Tony) Charles Linton Blair.

What about him? Nobody expected him to cure AIDS, cancer and poverty in a year as people do with Obama.

Re: Is there a Ron Paul for the U.K?

Arvin — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:34:51 GMT

Sphairon:

GilesStratton:
The British are far too keen on government for a Ron Paul type to succeed, I can't wait to get out of this hellhole.

Where do you intend to go? I've been thinking of alternatives to Europe as well, but it's either tyranny or poor living conditions. Rural Montana, maybe, but I'm not that good a farmer.

Isle of man, no corporate taxes, low income tax, no speed limit. "Freedom to flourish"

Re: Is there a Ron Paul for the U.K?

seetheowl — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 15:52:08 GMT

I expect the BNP and UKIP will become a lot more popular over the next few years with the recession/depression. I asked on another forum for Ron Paul of the UK and people said the UKIP and BNP were those yet there views are very contradictory.

Re: Is there a Ron Paul for the U.K?

Physiocrat — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 10:40:14 GMT

GilesStratton:

You'd never see an Obama like character anywehre in Europe.

How about Princess Tony aka Anthony (Tony) Charles Linton Blair.

Re: Is there a Ron Paul for the U.K?

Marko — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 23:30:33 GMT

GilesStratton:

You'd never see an Obama like character anywehre in Europe.

Unless he came from the US that is. There is Obamamania in Europe too. No wonder since he is the "liberal" messiah and Europe is one giant blue state.

Re: Is there a Ron Paul for the U.K?

liberty student — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 23:16:55 GMT

GilesStratton:
You'd never see an Obama like character anywehre in Europe.

I watched a video of the french mass protesting for their saviour Sarkosy to do more to save the economy.

People are idiots everywhere, but yeah, many Americans are obsessed with the Founding Father mythology. I had some guy tell me the other day that Franklin fought the British and Lincoln was a Founding Father. The guys who get fanatical about Colonial Scrip are too much too.

Re: Is there a Ron Paul for the U.K?

hayekianxyz — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 22:01:33 GMT

sicsempertyrannis:
but most Americans have liberty in their blood.

No they don't, perhaps they have what Big Brother might call "liberty" in their bloods but that's about it, in terms of action they're no different to Europeans.

As for Switzerland, the Swiss are far more liberty orientated than anybody else I've seen. Also, Americans adore the state and politics in way that nobody can imagine in Europe. You'd never see an Obama like character anywehre in Europe.

Re: Is there a Ron Paul for the U.K?

laminustacitus — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:15:49 GMT

FreedomIsYellow:
No doubt that Thatcher was good economically (though she didn't do anything about hard currency). She helped reverse some of the horrendous damage of previous Labour governments. She also gave the country a shove towards the police state, however.

The classic difference between the rhetoric of conservatives and their actual actions. In fact, Thatcher once stated "This is what I believe in" in respect to F.A. Hayek's The Constitution of Liberty.

Re: Is there a Ron Paul for the U.K?

FreedomIsYellow — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:54:44 GMT

No doubt that Thatcher was good economically (though she didn't do anything about hard currency). She helped reverse some of the horrendous damage of previous Labour governments. She also gave the country a shove towards the police state, however.

Re: Is there a Ron Paul for the U.K?

Stranger — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:43:57 GMT

FreedomIsYellow:

For the country which was at the forefront of the liberal revolution, it is a sad shadow of the place it used to be. People just blindly accept the ID cards, the smoking ban, the endless fake charities used to produce recommendations to government, the end of freedom of speech .. the literal march to a police state.

If ever there was a vivid illustration of Hoppe's theory that democracy leads to socialism, the state that occupies part of the British Isles is it. It's a depressing place to live in.

Funny that every time I argue that democracy cannot work, people bring up Margaret Thatcher as a counterexample. Much good she did.

Re: Is there a Ron Paul for the U.K?

FreedomIsYellow — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:30:15 GMT

For the country which was at the forefront of the liberal revolution, it is a sad shadow of the place it used to be. People just blindly accept the ID cards, the smoking ban, the endless fake charities used to produce recommendations to government, the end of freedom of speech .. the literal march to a police state.

If ever there was a vivid illustration of Hoppe's theory that democracy leads to socialism, the state that occupies part of the British Isles is it. It's a depressing place to live in.

Re: Is there a Ron Paul for the U.K?

Conza88 — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 05:27:21 GMT

Freiheit:

Maybe close on national sovereignty, but I just Youtube'd him, and watched the first video of his that came up, in which he began criticising the European Central Bank for not lowering interest rates like all the other central banks of the world. Erm...

Ermm.... hence the "ish" look we're talking UK here, the fact that he is the "best" says a lot, alright?