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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Thread Graveyard</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/310.aspx</link><description>Where all irrelevant topics go to die.</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP2 (Build: 40407.4157)</generator><item><title>Re: This will really get you fired up! Take a look at what Pharr has to say about opression.</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/489906.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 10:54:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:489906</guid><dc:creator>cab21</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/489906.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=310&amp;PostID=489906</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	to get rid of oppression, get rid of government, should have been a conclusion, was not.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: This will really get you fired up! Take a look at what Pharr has to say about opression.</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/489728.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:15:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:489728</guid><dc:creator>The Texas Trigger</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/489728.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=310&amp;PostID=489728</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	@excel-that is such an epic response. Rarely do I have nothing to add, but that was just epic&lt;/p&gt;
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	+infinity&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: This will really get you fired up! Take a look at what Pharr has to say about opression.</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/489719.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 07:50:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:489719</guid><dc:creator>excel</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/489719.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=310&amp;PostID=489719</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
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		&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;#39;Lucida Grande&amp;#39;, &amp;#39;Lucida Sans Unicode&amp;#39;, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:18px;"&gt;It is also important to remember that this group has to have&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;em style="padding:0px;margin:0px;font-family:&amp;#39;Lucida Grande&amp;#39;, &amp;#39;Lucida Sans Unicode&amp;#39;, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:18px;"&gt;&lt;strong style="padding:0px;margin:0px;"&gt;institutional power&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;#39;Lucida Grande&amp;#39;, &amp;#39;Lucida Sans Unicode&amp;#39;, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:18px;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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	Ah, so nazi&amp;#39;s weren&amp;#39;t anti semites until they were elected into power. I see. They were simply bigoted and hateful. And mostly bigoted and hateful towards jews. Due to problems they had concerning jews specifically.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
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		People of color simply do not have institutional power to back up their hatred or bigotry or prejudice and therefore cannot be deemed racist.&lt;/p&gt;
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	Since the nazis lost the war, they obviously didn&amp;#39;t have the power to back up their hatred, bigotry or prejudice and therefore cannot be deemed anti-semitic or racist.&lt;/p&gt;
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	Are we redefining terms now? What counts as institutional power? Do you have to be part of this mythical norm that was mentioned earlier?&lt;/p&gt;
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		&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;#39;Lucida Grande&amp;#39;, &amp;#39;Lucida Sans Unicode&amp;#39;, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:18px;"&gt;We simply have to take a look at the representation of women and people of color in our institutions. Take, for example, the U.S. Congress. What percentage of its members are people of color or women?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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	What percentage of people voted for the representation of everyone who is in congress? Did minorities and women stay home on voting day? Or did they in fact also vote for those people on capitol hill?&lt;/p&gt;
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		&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;#39;Lucida Grande&amp;#39;, &amp;#39;Lucida Sans Unicode&amp;#39;, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:18px;"&gt;We see the same lack of representation in financial institutions, in the leadership of churches and &lt;strong&gt;synagogues&lt;/strong&gt;, in the military.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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	Yeah, those damn racist white male straight and apparently&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;christian&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;jews (going by the &amp;#39;norm&amp;#39;) who won&amp;#39;t let non-jews into leadership positions in their synagogues.&lt;/p&gt;
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		&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;#39;Lucida Grande&amp;#39;, &amp;#39;Lucida Sans Unicode&amp;#39;, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:18px;"&gt;In our schools, the primary literature and history taught are about the exploits of white men, shown through the white man&amp;rsquo;s eyes. Black history, for instance, is still relegated to one month, whereas &amp;ldquo;American history&amp;rdquo; is taught all year round.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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	Because european and subsequently american history obviously consists of one homogenous blob of &amp;#39;the white race&amp;#39; moving in lockstep as one across the world with a single objective of whiteifying the lands.&lt;br /&gt;
	Why not mention asian history by the way? After all, everything east of pakistan is basically just one big yellow ball of humanity who&amp;#39;s homogeneity has always been demonstrated through history.&lt;/p&gt;
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		&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;#39;Lucida Grande&amp;#39;, &amp;#39;Lucida Sans Unicode&amp;#39;, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:18px;"&gt;Another major institution, the media, remains controlled and dominated by white men and their images of themselves.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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	BET. Also the media remains mainly controlled by OLD white men, which is not &amp;#39;the norm&amp;#39; mentioned earlier in the article and it is therefore, by the argument of the article, impossible for it to be used as a form of racism or discrimination. Any mistreatment of minorities on its part must therefore be &amp;#39;mere&amp;#39; bigotry.&lt;/p&gt;
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		&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;#39;Lucida Grande&amp;#39;, &amp;#39;Lucida Sans Unicode&amp;#39;, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:18px;"&gt;In order for these institutions to be controlled by a single group of people, there must be&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;em style="padding:0px;margin:0px;font-family:&amp;#39;Lucida Grande&amp;#39;, &amp;#39;Lucida Sans Unicode&amp;#39;, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:18px;"&gt;&lt;strong style="padding:0px;margin:0px;"&gt;economic power&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;#39;Lucida Grande&amp;#39;, &amp;#39;Lucida Sans Unicode&amp;#39;, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:18px;"&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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	Yes, they are apparently controlled by that single group of old young christian jewish white&amp;nbsp;male that I&amp;#39;ve heard so much about.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
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		&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;#39;Lucida Grande&amp;#39;, &amp;#39;Lucida Sans Unicode&amp;#39;, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:18px;"&gt;Earlier I discussed the necessity to maintain racism and sexism so that people of color and women will continue to provide a large pool of unpaid or low-paid labor.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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	Of course! After all, when a white male christian teenager walks into a mcdonalds and starts flipping burgers, he starts at a six-figure salary! Oh racism, have you no decency?&lt;/p&gt;
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		&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;#39;Lucida Grande&amp;#39;, &amp;#39;Lucida Sans Unicode&amp;#39;, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:18px;"&gt;Once economic control is in the hands of the few, all others can be controlled through limiting access to resources, limiting mobility, limiting employment options.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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	Of course! A brilliant plan. Now that the young old white christian jewish males control mcdonalds and starbucks, we can finally start limiting blacks and womens access to hamburgers and coffee! It&amp;#39;s fool proof. FOOL PROOF!&lt;/p&gt;
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		&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;#39;Lucida Grande&amp;#39;, &amp;#39;Lucida Sans Unicode&amp;#39;, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:18px;"&gt;People are pitted against one another through perpetuation of the&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;em style="padding:0px;margin:0px;font-family:&amp;#39;Lucida Grande&amp;#39;, &amp;#39;Lucida Sans Unicode&amp;#39;, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:18px;"&gt;&lt;strong style="padding:0px;margin:0px;"&gt;myth of scarcity&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;#39;Lucida Grande&amp;#39;, &amp;#39;Lucida Sans Unicode&amp;#39;, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:18px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;which suggests that our resources are limited and blames the poor for using up too much of what little there is to go around.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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	Yes. That&amp;#39;s what the &amp;#39;myth&amp;#39; of scarcity says. Resources are limited. And those with the most access to resources are those who can afford the least of them.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
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	That&amp;#39;s as far as I&amp;#39;m willing to read. This is just seriously ignorant.&lt;/p&gt;
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	&amp;nbsp;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: This will really get you fired up! Take a look at what Pharr has to say about opression.</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/489711.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 07:00:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:489711</guid><dc:creator>excel</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/489711.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=310&amp;PostID=489711</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
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		&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;#39;Lucida Grande&amp;#39;, &amp;#39;Lucida Sans Unicode&amp;#39;, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:18px;"&gt;It is virtually impossible to view one oppression, such as sexism or homophobia, in isolation because they are all connected: sexism, racism, homophobia, classism, ableism, anti-Semitism, ageism. &lt;strong&gt;They are linked by a common origin-economic power and control-&lt;/strong&gt;and by common methods of limiting, controlling and destroying lives&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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	So the proletariat revolution can only come from the top (since the working class doesn&amp;#39;t have any power or control they can&amp;#39;t be classist)? Poor people can&amp;#39;t be racist or sexist?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: This will really get you fired up! Take a look at what Pharr has to say about opression.</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/489696.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 04:49:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:489696</guid><dc:creator>cab21</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/489696.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=310&amp;PostID=489696</wfw:commentRss><description>the article is bad&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>This will really get you fired up! Take a look at what Pharr has to say about opression.</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/489693.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 04:23:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:489693</guid><dc:creator>siope1kd</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/489693.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=310&amp;PostID=489693</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;
	Take a look at this and let me know what you guys think of this article: http://ericstoller.com/blog/2006/03/31/the-common-elements-of-oppressions/&lt;/p&gt;
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	Criticisms are welcome.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>