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Re: Libertarians denying the holocoust? Harry Elmer Barnes

Natalie — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:10:12 GMT

fezwhatley:
to what degree of holocaust denial? for instance, some historians question the mainstream figures as to how many jew were exterminated at Auschwitz, and in the total operation, but don't deny that the Nazi's made a concerted effort at genocied.

I hear they're still finding human ash in Auschwitz.

Re: Libertarians denying the holocoust? Harry Elmer Barnes

LUCHAC — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 03:10:59 GMT

He still considers the nazis a group of murderers, but I am not sure the argument to justify 1.6 million in that they are not in actuallity 6 million murdered Jews is very classy, to say the least. Also, I would expect a serious historian arguing about the details of the genocide by gunshot versus the gas chamber would be more objective and Paul Rassinger was certainly not as he himself admitted.

So, my question is what Rothbard says here about Harry Elmer Barnes, not just as a historian:

http://mises.org/story/2784

I really like reading about history, but it is often difficult finding a perspective I'm comfortable with. So, please correct me if I'm wrong.

Re: Libertarians denying the holocoust? Harry Elmer Barnes

fezwhatley — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:03:33 GMT

to what degree of holocaust denial? for instance, some historians question the mainstream figures as to how many jew were exterminated at Auschwitz, and in the total operation, but don't deny that the Nazi's made a concerted effort at genocied.

Re: Libertarians denying the holocoust? Harry Elmer Barnes

champthom — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:00:55 GMT

From what I understand, it's only recently that Barnes has become pretty discredited due to his Holocaust denialism. Before, he use to be a pretty prominent and respected historian.

Re: Libertarians denying the holocoust? Harry Elmer Barnes

nirgrahamUK — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:53:28 GMT

so Rothbard spoke well of someone as a historian of US affairs, and he shouldn't have because this fellah translated work by someone unscholarly?

here's another damning connection:

Walter Block citing Einstein as a provider of positive value:

If we appreciate what Einstein and Mozart have given us, if we are "free riders" on them, again well and good.

Einstein was a commie!

Re: Libertarians denying the holocoust? Harry Elmer Barnes

Mr Civil Libertartian — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:08:59 GMT

Some people just believe completely bat-shit things, despite otherwise being highly intelligent. I myself have various friends who believe every conspiracy theory you can imagine.

Besides, it's not as if it reflects (to a logical thinking person) on all libertarians.

Libertarians denying the holocoust? Harry Elmer Barnes

LUCHAC — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:27:26 GMT

I understand Harry Elmer Barnes translated some of Paul Rassinier's work, who denied the holocoust ever happened.

I wonder why Rothbard would have Harry Elmer Barnes in such high esteem. I still like Rothbard a lot, but this somewhat disappointing.