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Re: What was it like to live in the USSR?

Natalie — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 16:25:28 GMT

By the way, Dr Ron Paul served in the US Airforce. I'm sure his supporters would be thrilled to know that he's a "murderous thug" who'd never criticize the government ;)

Re: What was it like to live in the USSR?

Natalie — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 17:00:00 GMT

liberty student:
We can make a new one.

Go ahead :)

Re: What was it like to live in the USSR?

marquise — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 06:55:54 GMT

What exactly are you interested in? I would have a hard time finding anything positive anyways....

Re: What was it like to live in the USSR?

liberty student — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 04:14:25 GMT

We can make a new one.

Re: What was it like to live in the USSR?

Natalie — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:57:10 GMT

Good idea. But wasn't there a topic about it already?

Re: What was it like to live in the USSR?

liberty student — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:48:45 GMT

I'm going to move all of these offtopic posts to a new thread unless this thread is able to get back on track. If we're going to discuss if being soldier means you love murder, I think that is a new thread topic.

Re: What was it like to live in the USSR?

Natalie — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:31:29 GMT

And how does this all preclude private security companies?

Re: What was it like to live in the USSR?

jtucker — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:12:32 GMT

amazing video and narration. thank you so much!

Re: What was it like to live in the USSR?

Juan — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:11:54 GMT

Natalie:

Juan:
What defines a free-society is unconditional respect for individual rights.
Exactly how you're going to protect your freedom without the right of self-defense?

What did I say about the right to self-defense ?

And what's unconditional respect?

Unconditional respect is, well, unconditional respect.

Is it some kind of a zombie socialist paradise where everyone agrees to the party line?

Yes, in a free society everybody should follow the party line : life, liberty and property are to be unconditionally respected.

Re: What was it like to live in the USSR?

Natalie — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:07:52 GMT

Jonathan M. F. Catalán:
Or, should all soldiers be executed, or at best marginalized from society? I'm not sure what the usefulness of insulting service members and grouping them into "murderers" and refusing to accept them as libertarians is, Juan.

You're wasting your time, you know.

Re: What was it like to live in the USSR?

Juan — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:06:55 GMT

Right, we need more "libertarians" like Juan who slander people they haven't met and tell blatant lies.

Natalie, seriously, you don't know what you are talking about. Maybe you should join freerepublic or the heritage foundation ?

Re: What was it like to live in the USSR?

Juan — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:06:27 GMT

Nir:
i certainly don't read them as advocating for the military, or excusing actual crimes of soldiers.

Jonathan:
The individual soldier should not be blamed.

... Can it get any more clear ?

Jonathan:
Even had a prior service member gone to war, is there no such thing as forgiveness?

Not sure how forgiveness enters the picture. You mean the reparations that soldiers owe for all the damage they cause ?

Or do you think that the victims who somehow avoid death should 'forgive' the criminals that attack them ?

I'm not sure what the usefulness of insulting service members

You just keep saying the wrong thing. If A kills B, unless A did so in self-defense, A is a murderer - libertarianism is built around that sort of moral fact.

Suggesting that calling a spade a spade is an insult, is wrong in more than one way.

Anyway, a couple of basic points...

1) libertarianism is about peaceful cooperation not war.
2) individuals are individually responsible for their acts.

Re: What was it like to live in the USSR?

Natalie — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 02:54:53 GMT

Juan:
Basically, you don't know what you are talking about.

Oh, unlike some white tower libertarians, I know it very well. I know what's it like to live in a totalitarian state and the kind of defenselessness you feel when you can't protect yourself even against "official" crimes.

Juan:
What defines a free-society is unconditional respect for individual rights.

Exactly how you're going to protect your freedom without the right of self-defense?

And what's unconditional respect? Is it some kind of a zombie socialist paradise where everyone agrees to the party line?

Re: What was it like to live in the USSR?

Natalie — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 02:44:42 GMT

Juan:
Good for you. 'We' need more 'libertarians' like you and Natalie.

Right, we need more "libertarians" like Juan who slander people they haven't met and tell blatant lies.

Re: What was it like to live in the USSR?

Esuric — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:20:58 GMT

It's odd here in former Yugoslavia, the people, for the most part, realize that socialism destroyed their economy and destroyed them psychologically (no one trusts the government, and they're all afraid to save/hold money due to hyper-inflation). But no one blames Tito; in fact, he's hailed as a great leader, and many long for the days of "Yugoslavian dominance." They can't tell you why socialism failed from an economic point of view; they merely explain that only Tito could keep the Croatians, Serbians, Slovenes, and Montenegrins together. Each party blames others for the failure, without actually acknowledging the failure of socialism.