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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>History</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/71.aspx</link><description /><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP2 (Build: 40407.4157)</generator><item><title>Re: Banking History Questions</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/278842.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 04:35:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:278842</guid><dc:creator>protection</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/278842.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=71&amp;PostID=278842</wfw:commentRss><description>Out of the 203,053 shares (in 1914):--

National City Bank (Stillman - Rockefeller) 30.000
First National Bank (Morgan) 15.000
National Bank of Commerce (Morgan) 21.000
Hanover National Bank (Stillman) 10.300
Chase National (Rockefeller) 6.000

Eustace Mullins, The Secret of the Federal Reserve
Johnny-come-latelies, like the guy who wrote the Jeckyl Island book, learned everything they know about the Fed from Eustace Mullins


International bankers like the Warburgs were instrumental in financing the belligerents (Paul Warburg in the US, Max warburg in Germany).  Please read letters of Jacob Schiff, head of Khun, Loeb

Lenin was paid for by the German high command, please read &amp;quot;The Sealed Train&amp;quot;
http://www.yamaguchy.netfirms.com/7897401/pearson/pearson_index.html

The new Soviet-Russia was supported by Standard Oil:--
http://www.yamaguchy.netfirms.com/7897401/denny/foroil_10.html


Mao was put in power by US State Department.

During the cold war Rockefeller and Rothschild extended large loans to the Eastern block, at much lower interest than a US citizen with good credit could get.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Banking History Questions</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/269222.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:26:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:269222</guid><dc:creator>tomozope</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/269222.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=71&amp;PostID=269222</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;div id="ctl00_ctl00_bcr_bcr_PostForm__QuoteText"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/Themes/mises2008/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;tomozope:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The Federal Reserve Banks are owned by the shareholders (member banks).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; Which banks. &lt;strong&gt;That is the term &amp;quot;member banks&amp;quot; which consist of federal and some state chartered banks.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;All federal chartered banks are member banks.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;All the member banks are&amp;nbsp;controlled by the Fed Res. board of&amp;nbsp;Gov.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/Themes/mises2008/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;tomozope:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Bankers financy 100% of any military action since they create 100% of the money supply as interest bearing loans to themselves.&amp;nbsp; If the bankers don&amp;#39;t want a war they just shut down the money.&amp;nbsp; If they want it.....well....Iraq/Afganistan is a perfect example.&amp;nbsp; They haven&amp;#39;t had to tax the people at all to pay for those wars....yet...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; Which bankers.&amp;nbsp; &lt;strong&gt;A combination but my guess would be the biggest funder if the Fed Bank of New York since it is the largest and most powerful of all the banks in the USA, or at least that is what the banks say.&amp;nbsp; It&amp;#39;s hard to say which bank exactly buys the most government bonds.&amp;nbsp; I&amp;#39;ve never looked into that.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/Themes/mises2008/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;tomozope:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The cold war was probably just an excuse to have tons of government borrowed money funneled into companies that the bankers own without having a real war where the masses get pissed off.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; Which companies. Which banks.&amp;nbsp; &lt;strong&gt;That&amp;#39;s a huge question to answer, but most of your large corporations are owned or the banking system controls them through a mortgage which is payable profit to the banks.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Banking History Questions</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/269220.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:18:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:269220</guid><dc:creator>Sieben</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/269220.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=71&amp;PostID=269220</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/Themes/mises2008/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Saan:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;THe answer is in &lt;b&gt;The Creature from Jekyll Island&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; I thought that no one had any direct knowledge of what went on there, even if we knew a lot of rich people attended.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/Themes/mises2008/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Saan:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Read Gary North&amp;#39;s Gold Wars.&amp;nbsp; I think he has it for free at his &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.garynorth.com"&gt;website&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; If you pay him a subscription fee he has tons of other useful material as well. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; I skimmed through it. No mentioning of specific bank(er)s.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/Themes/mises2008/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Saan:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do a search here.&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://www.fee.org"&gt;www.fee.org&lt;/a&gt; This website has more back issues of the freeman.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do another search here.&amp;nbsp; &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://mises.org/Community/forums/AddPost.aspx/dailyreckoning.com"&gt;www.dailyreckoning&lt;/a&gt;.com&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; Turned up zip. Just the IMF keeps popping up. I know all about the IMF funding crappy governments and selling off their resources to multinationals. I guess I&amp;#39;d be interested to know who pulls the strings at the IMF. Apparently its collectively owned by the g20 who have voting power over it, but that doesn&amp;#39;t say much about private interests.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Banking History Questions</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/269218.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:04:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:269218</guid><dc:creator>Saan</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/269218.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=71&amp;PostID=269218</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/Themes/mises2008/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Snowflake:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Who owns the federal reserve?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;THe answer is in &lt;b&gt;The Creature from Jekyll Island&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sorry can&amp;#39;t find my copy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/Themes/mises2008/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Snowflake:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;What banks do people refer to when they say &amp;quot;international banking cartels&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;international banks funded both sides of ww1/2&amp;quot;? &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The central banks of the respective governments and to some extent the member banks.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/Themes/mises2008/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Snowflake:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Did the same international banks fund the rise of Lenin and Mao? &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In a sense yes, but not until they had consumed most of their nations capital. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/Themes/mises2008/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Snowflake:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;What was the roll of these bankers during the cold war?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Monetary policy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/Themes/mises2008/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Snowflake:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Citations and links please. A lot of this stuff borders on crazy conspiracy theory.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Read Gary North&amp;#39;s Gold Wars.&amp;nbsp; I think he has it for free at his &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://www.garynorth.com"&gt;website&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; If you pay him a subscription fee he has tons of other useful material as well. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do a search here.&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://www.fee.org"&gt;www.fee.org&lt;/a&gt; This website has more back issues of the freeman.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do another search here.&amp;nbsp; &lt;a target="_blank" href="http://mises.org/Community/forums/AddPost.aspx/dailyreckoning.com"&gt;www.dailyreckoning&lt;/a&gt;.com&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Banking History Questions</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/269216.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:58:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:269216</guid><dc:creator>Sieben</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/269216.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=71&amp;PostID=269216</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/Themes/mises2008/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;tomozope:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The Federal Reserve Banks are owned by the shareholders (member banks).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; Which banks.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/Themes/mises2008/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;tomozope:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Bankers financy 100% of any military action since they create 100% of the money supply as interest bearing loans to themselves.&amp;nbsp; If the bankers don&amp;#39;t want a war they just shut down the money.&amp;nbsp; If they want it.....well....Iraq/Afganistan is a perfect example.&amp;nbsp; They haven&amp;#39;t had to tax the people at all to pay for those wars....yet...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; Which bankers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/Themes/mises2008/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;tomozope:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The cold war was probably just an excuse to have tons of government borrowed money funneled into companies that the bankers own without having a real war where the masses get pissed off.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; Which companies. Which banks.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Banking History Questions</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/269214.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:46:25 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:269214</guid><dc:creator>tomozope</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/269214.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=71&amp;PostID=269214</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Who owns the federal reserve?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Federal Reserve Board of Gov. is an absolute government agency.&amp;nbsp; The Federal Reserve Banks are owned by the shareholders (member banks).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Were the world wars caused by these bankers&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bankers financy 100% of any military action since they create 100% of the money supply as interest bearing loans to themselves.&amp;nbsp; If the bankers don&amp;#39;t want a war they just shut down the money.&amp;nbsp; If they want it.....well....Iraq/Afganistan is a perfect example.&amp;nbsp; They haven&amp;#39;t had to tax the people at all to pay for those wars....yet...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The cold war was probably just an excuse to have tons of government borrowed money funneled into companies that the bankers own without having a real war where the masses get pissed off.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Banking History Questions</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/269211.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:43:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:269211</guid><dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/269211.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=71&amp;PostID=269211</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;d say that bankers are just a &lt;i&gt;de facto&lt;/i&gt; part of the Statist monopoly leviathan, if that helps.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Banking History Questions</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/269210.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:34:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:269210</guid><dc:creator>Sieben</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/269210.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=71&amp;PostID=269210</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;ve been watching documentaries about the fed, and some questions came up which I can&amp;#39;t find immediate/satisfactory answers to.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Who owns the federal reserve?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What banks do people refer to when they say &amp;quot;international banking cartels&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;international banks funded both sides of ww1/2&amp;quot;? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Were the world wars caused by these bankers? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Did the same international banks fund the rise of Lenin and Mao? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What was the roll of these bankers during the cold war?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Citations and links please. A lot of this stuff borders on crazy conspiracy theory.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>