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Re: Articles of confederation

Sieben — Sun, 19 Sep 2010 21:45:29 GMT

Thanks for those links. I was wondering if there were any lectures or podcasts I could listen to...? :)

Re: Articles of confederation

BrianAnderson — Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:47:46 GMT

The Civil War was ultimately a power struggle, not some bout over ideology.

I'd say it was a power struggle over ideology. The South was trying to take its own power back by seceding. The North was trying to keep more power by preserving the Union.

Re: Articles of confederation

Azure — Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:25:57 GMT

Off the top of my head, the big changes for the CSA was the line item veto, the requirement for bills to pertain to only one subject (i.e. no "pork"), and the allowing of only 1 term for presidential office.

And there's the slavery thing but everyone knows about that.

It was basically the same as the Union's. The Civil War was ultimately a power struggle, not some bout over ideology.

Re: Articles of confederation

Marko — Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:06:52 GMT

To take advantage of this thread: What about some analysis of the Constitution of the CSA?

And if they were Confederate States, why didn't they have Articles of Confederation instead?

Re: Articles of confederation

Runyan — Sun, 19 Sep 2010 16:28:51 GMT

Rethinking the Articles of Confederation

Mises Daily: Friday, August 08, 2003 by H.A. Scott Trask

http://mises.org/daily/1296

Secession, State, & Liberty edited by David Gordon

http://mises.org/books/secession_state_liberty.pdf

Articles of Confederation, 29, 54,116,119,160,162-63,176 Article XllI, 162

as league of friendship, 8,115
formed by sovereign states, 10
secession and, 25, 35, 162
state sovereignty and, 118, 162
text of, 291-98

From the index of Conceived in Liberty 4th Volume:

http://mises.org/books/conceived4.pdf

Articles of Confederation, 244, 246, 247, 249, 253-56, 369, 371, 372, 389, 392, 395, 396, 398, 401, 407, 409, 413, 414, 415, 448,449; Article Two, 253,254; Article Twelve, 255

Rothbard's primary source for the above (he does take issue with at least one of the author's interpretations [p254 CiL v4]):

Mérrill Jensen, The Articles of Confederation: An Interpretation of the Social-Constitutional
History of the American Revolution, 1774-1781. (Madison, Wise: University of Wisconsin
Press, 1962 http://www.worldcat.org/title/articles-of-confederation-an-interpretation-of-the-social-constitutional-history-of-the-american-revolution-1774-1781/oclc/8713552

Articles of confederation

Sieben — Sun, 19 Sep 2010 15:05:24 GMT

I know nothing about them. Mises media only has a short chapter by rothbard. Whats some good media on them?