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Re: Why Did the Colonists Create a Government After Seceding From the British Government?

Libertyandlife — Wed, 29 Sep 2010 01:10:10 GMT

It's funny because I finished No Treason today.

Re: Why Did the Colonists Create a Government After Seceding From the British Government?

Laotzu del Zinn — Wed, 29 Sep 2010 01:04:57 GMT

@limitgov, yeah you didn't know that? If a group of people who are claimed by most living there to have the ability to rule over them sign a contract, then they get the ability to rule over you whether or not you don't like it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTduy7Qkvk8

Re: Why Did the Colonists Create a Government After Seceding From the British Government?

Laotzu del Zinn — Wed, 29 Sep 2010 00:49:02 GMT

You should read some Paine. And the Federalist Papers. It would give you a good insight.

A lot weren't anti-state per se, more anti nation-state.

Re: Why Did the Colonists Create a Government After Seceding From the British Government?

limitgov — Tue, 28 Sep 2010 21:49:44 GMT

I'm curious...did the colonists...after just escaping and fighting off a huge government....did they want to form a government at all?

Or go on living as free men?

Someone said slaveholders wanted to form a government...you seemed to be sarcastic...but that makes perfect sense. Can't really keep a slave and get him returned if he runs away if they're isn't a government to support you.

I wish there was a book on this. Give the reasons why colonists who didn't want to form a new government...and talk about their reasons.

Right after the American revolution....weren't the states still governments? Was each state government still in tact?

Perhaps they already had governments....they just wanted to form a federal government....

one to rule them all....

Re: Why Did the Colonists Create a Government After Seceding From the British Government?

Nonfederal Nonreserve — Tue, 28 Sep 2010 20:23:07 GMT

Because they could.

Re: Why Did the Colonists Create a Government After Seceding From the British Government?

Eric080 — Tue, 28 Sep 2010 20:12:53 GMT

Re: Why Did the Colonists Create a Government After Seceding From the British Government?

MaikU — Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:34:36 GMT

I said "social" for a reason! >:(

Re: Why Did the Colonists Create a Government After Seceding From the British Government?

limitgov — Tue, 28 Sep 2010 17:58:41 GMT

"All american people signed social contract"

Only the "founding fathers" signed the piece of paper stating they could tax the colonists.....

the colonists didn't sign that.

Re: Why Did the Colonists Create a Government After Seceding From the British Government?

MaikU — Tue, 28 Sep 2010 16:30:40 GMT

All american people signed social contract and so the Government arose.

Re: Why Did the Colonists Create a Government After Seceding From the British Government?

Laotzu del Zinn — Tue, 28 Sep 2010 15:16:13 GMT

Slave owners and bankers wanted it.

haha. I have no evidence of that, but I bet those are the poeple who most supported a government; the Hamilton/Jefferson dichotomy

Re: Why Did the Colonists Create a Government After Seceding From the British Government?

No2statism — Tue, 28 Sep 2010 14:46:59 GMT

Well, they simply believed in goverment, but they also believed that if their new government got too powerful, then they could have another revolution. I'm using the Declaration of Independence as my logic.

Thomas Jefferson had no idea how powerful governments can get; if he did, then he probably would've founded the U.S. as a stateless society.

I'm an anarcho-capitalist, but I'm actually indifferent to that and the Articles of Confederation with some slight modifications.

Why Did the Colonists Create a Government After Seceding From the British Government?

limitgov — Tue, 28 Sep 2010 14:33:03 GMT

After the colonists seceded from the British government, why did they feel the need to create another government?