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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>History</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/71.aspx</link><description /><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP2 (Build: 40407.4157)</generator><item><title>Re: What things cost in Ancient Rome</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/88728.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 21:04:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:88728</guid><dc:creator>kiba</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/88728.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=71&amp;PostID=88728</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Damn depressing to be a Roman commoner.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>What things cost in Ancient Rome</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/88727.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:52:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:88727</guid><dc:creator>Jon Irenicus</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/88727.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=71&amp;PostID=88727</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:xx-small;"&gt;When studying Ancient Rome, it is only natural to wonder
what the price of everyday items might have been.&amp;nbsp; In order to fully
understand the price of an item, you must also consider the wages workers
received at the time the item was purchased.&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:xx-small;"&gt;Before you study the information below, it is helpful
to understand that professions were valued differently in ancient times
than they are today.&amp;nbsp; Likewise, the value of items was different then
than now.&amp;nbsp; For instance, in today&amp;rsquo;s world, one might spend 20% of
their total income on food, but in ancient times the cost may have been
50% or more of one&amp;rsquo;s total income.&amp;nbsp; In fact, during parts of the history
of Rome, food costs were so high that without free wheat subsidies from
the government, the common people would not have been able to survive!&amp;nbsp;
These subsidies were known as &amp;lsquo;doles&amp;rsquo; and according to AEJ Morris&amp;rsquo;s History
of Urban Form [1970 George Godwin LTD], up to 1/3 of the citizens of the
capital city received this public assistance.&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:xx-small;"&gt;Grain formed the foundation of the common Roman&amp;rsquo;s diet.&amp;nbsp;
It was not uncommon for grain to be the only thing a poor Roman ever ate.&amp;nbsp;
The cost of baking bread was very high to a poor Roman, so if no access
to a communal, public oven could be had, the grain would be crushed and
made into a porridge known as &amp;lsquo;puls&amp;rsquo; that was likely similar in taste and
texture to modern polenta.&amp;nbsp; While we take it for granted today, meat
was an extravagant luxury that most Romans could not afford to indulge
in.&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:xx-small;"&gt;Clothing was another expensive proposition.&amp;nbsp; One
&amp;lsquo;libra&amp;rsquo; (Roman pound, just under &amp;frac34; of a modern pound -&amp;nbsp; 326
grams), of fine silk cost more than a dozen human beings.&amp;nbsp; It seems
absurd to us today, but such was the case, because Ancient Romans lacked
the production machines of today that make cheap fabric possible.&amp;nbsp;
For the commoners, fashion was not a consideration- clothing was utilitarian,
had to be durable, and was patched until finally the garment became the
thing from which patches were taken for its replacement.&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:xx-small;"&gt;Historically, the cost of living has expanded to consume
all of the income that is available to the majority of the people in the
society.&amp;nbsp; As technology has enabled faster production, technology
has also introduced new things to consume the income the increased productivity
creates.&amp;nbsp; The ancient Romans did not have many things to pay for in
comparison to life today, yet it was every bit as much a struggle for them
to survive as it is today- and probably, it was even more of a struggle
for them.&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:xx-small;"&gt;As you read the data below, consider what you might have
been in Ancient Rome.&amp;nbsp; Would you have been a carpenter?&amp;nbsp; A mason?&amp;nbsp;
Would you have been fortunate enough to receive an education and become
an advocate (ancient equivalent of the modern lawyer)?&amp;nbsp; Pick your
profession, and then take a look at the kind of food and clothing you would
have been able to afford.&amp;nbsp; You might gain a new appreciation for modern
life!&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:xx-small;"&gt;All the prices and wages are listed in denarii communes,
which were not actually silver denarii as we usually think of when discussing
ancient Roman coinage.&amp;nbsp; Denarii communes, or d.c., were notational
currency.&amp;nbsp; What this means is, an exchange rate was given, telling
how much of the currency in circulation at that time (nummii) it took to
equal one d.c.&amp;nbsp; This made it easy to change the value of the money
in circulation, without having to rewrite and redistribute the entire Edict.&amp;nbsp;
A series of exchange tables are at the end of this page.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:xx-small;"&gt;See &lt;a href="http://www.constantinethegreatcoins.com/edict/"&gt;more here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>