Political Theory

Re: The war in Afghanistan and Pakistan

Merlin — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:03:28 GMT

Democracy for Breakfast:
However, what the hell can we do at this point? Pakistan has WMD's, having Pakistan's weak government lose to Al-Qaeda means that they will have possession of the WMD's.

So you disagree with nations acquiring WMD? If so, how can you reconcile this with the advocacy of citizens having the right to bear arms? Isn’t it the very same situation?

Re: The war in Afghanistan and Pakistan

bbnet — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:02:30 GMT

Snowflake:
Why are we continuing to fight these wars??

Investment Banker Karl Schwartz lays it out

1. The Caspian Sea Basin (Kazakstan, Turkmenistan etc.) holds between 11 and 12 TRILLION dollars in oil and gas resources

2. There are only three ways to get it out:

- East to China

- West through Iran, Russia, and Turkey to Europe

- South through Afghanistan and Pakistan

3. The Taliban who controlled Afghanistan before 9/11 made pipeline deals with non-US companies and refused to change them to give control of the region’s resources to the US

Rockwell's blog had an article that reveals this has been in the play book for quite some time, see: http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/sardi7.html

Re: The war in Afghanistan and Pakistan

Sieben — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:21:13 GMT

I don't really understand any of the wars in Iraq of Afghanistan or Pakistan or why we support isreal. That part of the world just doesn't seem like a threat to us at all except for Iran, who we haven't openly touched yet.

Why are we continuing to fight these wars??

Re: The war in Afghanistan and Pakistan

bbnet — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:40:40 GMT

Democracy for Breakfast:
Pulling out will bankrupt us at this point, can we solve this current international problem and then stop being imperialistic?

Staying in won't make us richer nor safer. The problems will be solved when our well runs dry.

No need to be nervous or sad, the abundance of new Obama warriors will swiftly kill the 500 or so Al-Qaeda members left in that area, too bad they'll likely take out 10s of thousands innocents in the process, but I guess the new pipeline will be worth it for some folks?

Re: The war in Afghanistan and Pakistan

Marko — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 10:30:26 GMT

Hard Rain:

It's cheaper to bribe these people than to fight them. Sad? Maybe...

They`re already way ahead of you.

http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2009/10/15/secret-italian-bribes-to-taliban-tip-of-the-iceberg/

Re: The war in Afghanistan and Pakistan

Hard Rain — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 10:26:41 GMT

It's cheaper to bribe these people than to fight them. Sad? Maybe...

Re: The war in Afghanistan and Pakistan

Marko — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 10:02:36 GMT

We have always been at war with Pakistan.

Re: The war in Afghanistan and Pakistan

DanielMuff — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 09:05:56 GMT

We know how the US government felt about Vietnam.

Re: The war in Afghanistan and Pakistan

DanielMuff — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 09:05:34 GMT

We know how the US government felt about Iraq.

Re: The war in Afghanistan and Pakistan

DanielMuff — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 09:04:43 GMT

We know how the US government felt about Japan in 1945.

The war in Afghanistan and Pakistan

Novus Zarathustra — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 09:01:58 GMT

I don't support the war at all, and I know that all the problems right now are a result of the U.S Government's meddling. However, what the hell can we do at this point? Pakistan has WMD's, having Pakistan's weak government lose to Al-Qaeda means that they will have possession of the WMD's. You know how Al-Qaeda feels about us.

All of this is making me nervous and depressed as hell. I hate thinking about it. But really what the hell can be done. Pulling out will bankrupt us at this point, can we solve this current international problem and then stop being imperialistic?