Political Theory

Re: How to Change the State, if you think it should be done.

Wanderer — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:02:06 GMT

Merlin:

Wanderer:
If any governmental system can be claimed to work, I'd pick the Swiss one.

While I'd go with Monaco, but that country is more like Grimaldi allowing people on his territory on his conditions (voluntary business), not a State. But than again, of course it is more buisness-ike than state-like, for no State can ever work

Monaco largely exists because France says it can. If they ever did anything to piss off France, they'd be crushed. That's just my take on things, though.

Re: How to Change the State, if you think it should be done.

bearing01 — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 18:09:56 GMT

Isaac "Izzy" Marmolejo:

This guy is just talking bull crap...

its even highly hypocritical calling him a anarcho- capitalist because I can tell that he rather have a Government ran state. That is why he is picking and choosing which State has the best government system...

The video is about changing the state. Not how to eliminate gov't. I don't believe it's a recipe to create an Anarchy or government less society.

He is an Anarc-cap. You will realize that if you watch his other videos / primers on what Anarco-cap is.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Kbiomech#p/c/E2652C460C21CC48

Re: How to Change the State, if you think it should be done.

Isaac "Izzy" Marmolejo — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:45:16 GMT

This guy is just talking bull crap...

its even highly hypocritical calling him a anarcho- capitalist because I can tell that he rather have a Government ran state. That is why he is picking and choosing which State has the best government system...

Re: How to Change the State, if you think it should be done.

scineram — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:37:33 GMT

This guy is a fraud. An artful one.

Re: How to Change the State, if you think it should be done.

Merlin — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:27:04 GMT

Wanderer:
If any governmental system can be claimed to work, I'd pick the Swiss one.

While I'd go with Monaco, but that country is more like Grimaldi allowing people on his territory on his conditions (voluntary business), not a State. But than again, of course it is more buisness-ike than state-like, for no State can ever work

Re: How to Change the State, if you think it should be done.

Wanderer — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 05:35:20 GMT

Switzerland requires that all tax increases and major legislation be approved by the people at large. They also have a strict policy of armed neutrality, and have avoided war since 1848, which is impressive considering their four neighbors are Germany, Austria, France, and Italy. The system is very federalized, they only have 7 departments at the national level, most things are taken care of at the Cantonal/Local/Private level. If asked if they wanted to begin talks about joining the EU (not joining the EU, just the talks), the people rejected by more than 3/4 of the vote. If any governmental system can be claimed to work, I'd pick the Swiss one.

How to Change the State, if you think it should be done.

bearing01 — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:41:38 GMT

I like this guy. He's an Anarco-Cap.

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Quote: Kbiomech

For once, I talk about how to CHANGE the State rather than abolishing it.

No, I didn't recant.

I'm just talking to those who believe the State to be NECESSARY, and telling them why they are failing at EVERY turn to reign it in. In short, Minarchists. Those who would still choose a master, but one they could keep watch on.

I do NOT espouse this position, but I did at one time. And I knew then and know now how you can effect change that is actually change on THIS system.

The Presidential election is one of the most elaborate frauds in modern history. We, the People, have NEVER elected even ONE president since the establishment of the corporate entity known as the United States of America.

This is as it should be. The Constitution doesn't define the President as a popular electoral position, but an internal one.

Originally, the people voted on ONE house. The house of representatives. This, too, is by design.

The Seventeenth Amendment, an artful fraud in itself, changed that.

What all statists need to understand is that the Seventeenth is the official declaration by the Federal Government that it no longer recognizes State Sovereignty. Regardless of your thoughts or stance on this issue, you NEED to know the fact of it. By taking the way the Senate is elected, rather than simply allowing the State to choose ITS representatives (2, no more than 2!) by ANY means that they choose and giving that to a popular vote ends the Senate in all but name. It was supposed to be a check on Federal power. The Feds don't like checks on their power.

But if you want to effect change, you have two houses at the Federal level and NUMEROUS local/county/state opportunities to utterly change the composition of the entity you are targeting.