Political Theory

Re: Prepare for the wave of Progressive Revisionism hatred

abskebabs — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:42:56 GMT

[sigh], at least you can't say you didn't try,

On a side note, I just went to do my dry my clothes at the shop down the road and had a fascinating chat with a a middle aged woman who I am sure has never heard of any of the kind of stuff posted on this site or forum yet expressed sentiments so naturally libertarian I can scarcely think I have ever heard them so clearly before.

It really was nothing more than this:

"If people aint doing anything to bother or harm anyone else then they should be allowed to be left to themselves!"

Amybe I'm being over-optimistic, but maybe there's hope

Re: Prepare for the wave of Progressive Revisionism hatred

Andrew Cain — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:16:28 GMT

I had this beautiful bibliography concerning the history of Progressivism with lectures and articles that I put up on the Sean Hannity forums. I wake up to today to find that the post was deleted and I was banned for promoting the LvMI site because of the links to lectures.

Re: Prepare for the wave of Progressive Revisionism hatred

Andrew Cain — Sun, 24 Jan 2010 08:07:10 GMT

Daniel Muffinburg:
I'm willing to bet that you're within 100 yards of a Republican.

Yea, pampered San Ramon kids.

Re: Prepare for the wave of Progressive Revisionism hatred

Andrew Cain — Sun, 24 Jan 2010 08:06:47 GMT

Capital Pumper:
There is no escape from your fate. You deal with aggrandized powers that curse all those, without extensive preparation, to insanity. Now the forces of rubeness have been consolidated by a relic that will undo all good deeds. I'm afraid all hope is lost.

Gesundheit

Re: Prepare for the wave of Progressive Revisionism hatred

DanielMuff — Sun, 24 Jan 2010 07:43:26 GMT

Laughing Man:

Well I live in California. So it is a great chance to talk about Bastiat & Mass Effect 2.

I'm willing to bet that you're within 100 yards of a Republican.

Re: Prepare for the wave of Progressive Revisionism hatred

Capital Pumper — Sun, 24 Jan 2010 07:40:36 GMT

Laughing Man:

Well I live in California. So it is a great chance to talk about Bastiat & Mass Effect 2.

There is no escape from your fate. You deal with aggrandized powers that curse all those, without extensive preparation, to insanity. Now the forces of rubeness have been consolidated by a relic that will undo all good deeds. I'm afraid all hope is lost.

Re: Prepare for the wave of Progressive Revisionism hatred

Daniel James Sanchez — Sun, 24 Jan 2010 07:29:53 GMT

Laughing Man:

Well I live in California. So it is a great chance to talk about Bastiat & Mass Effect 2.

Re: Prepare for the wave of Progressive Revisionism hatred

Andrew Cain — Sun, 24 Jan 2010 07:28:06 GMT

Well I live in California. So it is a great chance to talk about Bastiat & Mass Effect 2.

Re: Prepare for the wave of Progressive Revisionism hatred

Capital Pumper — Sun, 24 Jan 2010 07:23:29 GMT

Laughing Man:

My gamestop is doing a midnight opening. I haven't been to one since Force Unleashed. Before that it was Halo 2. I love midnight openings. So cool.

That is the perfect opportunity to meet teenage Republican aspies. Be sure to bring plenty of liquor.

Re: Prepare for the wave of Progressive Revisionism hatred

Andrew Cain — Sun, 24 Jan 2010 07:18:53 GMT

My gamestop is doing a midnight opening. I haven't been to one since Force Unleashed. Before that it was Halo 2. I love midnight openings. So cool.

Re: Prepare for the wave of Progressive Revisionism hatred

Capital Pumper — Sun, 24 Jan 2010 07:17:16 GMT

Laughing Man:

I myself will be heavily drinking until the next documentary in order not to go insane from correcting people.

That really depends where and who your correcting journey will take you. Just try not to get alochol poisoning before Mass Effect 2 is released

Re: Prepare for the wave of Progressive Revisionism hatred

Andrew Cain — Sun, 24 Jan 2010 07:07:30 GMT

sicsempertyrannis:
Sure, marxists are not really progressives but he could have driven home the naive puppy love some progressives have for marxist regimes better than he did.

Yea that is actually a true point. If you want to learn more about that I have a good book by Paul Hollander called "political pilgrims" It is very good and specifically concerns that topic of journalists going over to socialist nations.

Re: Prepare for the wave of Progressive Revisionism hatred

sicsempertyrannis — Sun, 24 Jan 2010 06:55:06 GMT

Laughing Man:

Well Marx isn't a progressive. Progressivism concerns the cartelization of labor and business with a planning unit at its head in order to bring about governmental efficiency in helping the average citizenry. And the relation between Marx and Hitler isn't really existent. Nazism is national socialism but that doesn't connect Marx to Hitler. It's disingenuous.

I watched it, and I was disappointed. Sure, marxists are not really progressives but he could have driven home the naive puppy love some progressives have for marxist regimes better than he did. The closest he got to that was the brief mention of Stalinist apologist Walter Duranty, but he wasnt really a progressive, either. If he had included segments on the left's continued love for 'Republican' Spain or Allende in Chile I might have had a more positive view.

Re: Prepare for the wave of Progressive Revisionism hatred

Andrew Cain — Sun, 24 Jan 2010 06:06:48 GMT

Well Marx isn't a progressive. Progressivism concerns the cartelization of labor and business with a planning unit at its head in order to bring about governmental efficiency in helping the average citizenry. And the relation between Marx and Hitler isn't really existent. Nazism is national socialism but that doesn't connect Marx to Hitler. It's disingenuous.

In fact, now that I am writing this out, none of the people in his documentary were actually Progressives. Well maybe George Bernard Shaw but I would give him the proper label of a Fabian socialist. Really this had nothing to do with progressives...wow. I can't believe I am now realizing this.

Re: Prepare for the wave of Progressive Revisionism hatred

NewLiberty — Sun, 24 Jan 2010 04:50:09 GMT

I watched the documentary, it was pretty good actually. There's a lot of stuff in there the average person should know.