Political Theory

Re: When kids get life - questions about government vs. anarchnocapitalistic justice

Caley McKibbin — Sat, 20 Mar 2010 05:39:21 GMT

MatthewF:

It seems like once it is proved that the kid did the killing, it would be up to him/her to prove that it was done in self defense.

At any point in any circumstance it is up to those wanting to take a present action against a person to prove anything required to justify it.

Re: When kids get life - questions about government vs. anarchnocapitalistic justice

MatthewF — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:36:00 GMT

It seems like once it is proved that the kid did the killing, it would be up to him/her to prove that it was done in self defense.

Re: When kids get life - questions about government vs. anarchnocapitalistic justice

Nielsio — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:35:05 GMT

eliotn:

My main question was this: how would Rothbardian law, in theory, handle a kid that killed their parent, but only after years of abuse?

This child would probably be held for a certain amount of time to find out his mental soundness and danger to others. He would probably go into some sort of mental help program and might gain his acceptance into societal life back. The child would probably willingly enroll into such a program specifically for that purpose.

Re: When kids get life - questions about government vs. anarchnocapitalistic justice

Bert — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:02:34 GMT

Was the child killing in defense? Was he psychologically unsound? What kind of abuse?

If the child kills his parents after years of physical (and possibly mental and sexual) abuse what makes me wonder is if it was ever reported to anyone else. Is it unjust to give someone a life sentence who's crime was delivering justice themselves?

Re: When kids get life - questions about government vs. anarchnocapitalistic justice

eliotn — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:37:37 GMT

Nielsio:

eliotn:

My question is, why does government make sentences that other people find unjust?

What you find unjust and what the government finds unjust are two separate things; particularly given that they can create law and enforce law.

My main question was this: how would Rothbardian law, in theory, handle a kid that killed their parent, but only after years of abuse?

Re: When kids get life - questions about government vs. anarchnocapitalistic justice

Nielsio — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:33:20 GMT

eliotn:

My question is, why does government make sentences that other people find unjust?

What you find unjust and what the government finds unjust are two separate things; particularly given that they can create law and enforce law.

Re: When kids get life - questions about government vs. anarchnocapitalistic justice

eliotn — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:26:52 GMT

Nielsio:

I don't understand the question.

There is nothing 'disproportionate' a government does, because a democracy is the embodiment of justice itself. There is literally nothing immoral a government can do based on that principle; just people 'doing their job'.

My question is, why does government make sentences that other people find unjust?

Re: When kids get life - questions about government vs. anarchnocapitalistic justice

Nielsio — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:23:52 GMT

I don't understand the question.

There is nothing 'disproportionate' a government does, because a democracy is the embodiment of justice itself. There is literally nothing immoral a government can do based on that principle; just people 'doing their job'.

When kids get life - questions about government vs. anarchnocapitalistic justice

eliotn — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:14:52 GMT

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/whenkidsgetlife/

This movie shows some cases where kids are sentenced to life without parole. The interesting thing was that there were individual circumstances in their lives, and the law seemed to have some loopholes. It was an interesting movie, and raises questions about the fairness of government justice. My question is this: why do these government courts allow a disproportionate punishment to happen?