https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/8.aspxDiscussion of political theory.enCommunityServer 2008.5 SP2 (Build: 40407.4157)https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/335292.aspxSun, 23 May 2010 23:30:56 GMT944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:335292AnonLLF0https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/335292.aspxhttps://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=8&PostID=335292<p>It is so ill defined and vague.<br /> When we examine it&#39;s alleged aspects we find our understanding of it is false and vague.<br /> <br /> Lets try to establish it&#39;s defining features:-<br /> <br /> Is it statism? Nope. There are both statist and non statist I.e. Anarchist conservatives.Whether you believe in government or not is not it&#39;s essential feature.Statist conservatives are just conservatives who are statists.Far from explaining anything this just muddles the concept more.<br /> <br /> Is it support from war,expansionist empire or imperialist? Nope.I guess you haven&#39;t heard of the Old Right or Paleo-conservatives or those who are anti-war and conservative.<br /> <br /> Pro family? Nope. aren&#39;t most people excepting radical feminists,marxists,anarcho-leftist loonies and some psychologists that?<br /> <br /> Pro Community? Nope.All but the most irrational and antisocial are opposed to community even if some supporters of it do destroy it.<br /> <br /> Pro religion? Nope. Many people are religious or pro -religion including socialists,anarchists,BDSM fans,pornographers and new agers(sorry to lump some of these together i.e. the BDSM and pornographers with the undesirables).<br /> <br /> Belief in absolute morality? Nope.Most at very least support this in name.Some socialists support it as a requirement of their political dogma,same goes for Randians.<br /> <br /> Belief in law and order? Nope . I&#39;m supportive of this and I&#39;m not conservative in the slightest,same goes for Roderick Long or Wendy Mcelroy and others.<br /> <br /> Belief in hierarchy? Nope.I support this as do many other average people to some degree or another.<br /> <br /> What about the much stereotypical view of conservative as pro-life? well some leftists are pro-life in abortion sometimes too as are some others for various religious and moral reasons.It&#39;s not an exclusively conservative position.<br /> <br /> ................<br /> <br /> <br /> Features I can discern are :<br /> <br /> 1. Much higher value than average placed on taste,decency and manners.<br /> 2.Strong belief in traditional lifestyles.<br /> 3.Much higher value than average placed on tradition and culture.<br /> <br /> <br /> I may add to this post at a later date after I&#39;ve had time to think more on it and also discuss it..</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><strong>Hopefully I have successfully managed to avoid caricaturing any of these positions or assuming conservatism to be what it&#39;s not.</strong></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><strong>Any thoughts?</strong></p><div style="clear:both;"></div>