Political Theory

Re: Determinism and Causality

Stranger — Thu, 27 Jan 2011 01:20:56 GMT

Re: Determinism and Causality

Jeremiah Dyke — Thu, 27 Jan 2011 00:28:46 GMT

1) sure, why would people under deterministic causation necessarily not be caused to do things like talk to each other about (and put in place) systems of restitution?

Good point

Furthering the topic, How unintentional can an action actually be? How intentional can an action be? Whats the upper and lower bound? Can we say with any certainty that an action was intentional or unintentional or are we speaking about degrees?

Re: Determinism and Causality

nirgrahamUK — Wed, 26 Jan 2011 23:56:05 GMT

1) sure, why would people under deterministic causation necessarily not be caused to do things like talk to each other about (and put in place) systems of restitution?

2) Action is behaviour, but a special type of behaviour for which we can give a teleological account. teleological descriptions may lose their pride of place as the 'only/(or much the best)' framework for understanding human agents, but you would have to explain to me why they would fall away all together if the complexities of 'mechanical' reductionism were rendered trivial to our understanding.

Determinism and Causality

Jeremiah Dyke — Wed, 26 Jan 2011 23:43:18 GMT

Posing the question if determinism could be perfectly revealed, that is, if all actions could be perfectly traced back to their original causes to a the point where it was accepted that all action were determined by cause and effect would there be any need for a system of restitution and property violations? Would all action be defined as behavior?