Political Theory

Re: Anti-secession: Reductios

Jon Irenicus — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 02:52:41 GMT

In which case I refer you to my single debating rule.

-Jon

Re: Anti-secession: Reductios

MacFall — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 02:45:25 GMT

liberty student:

Jon Irenicus:

Minor correction: it's reductiones.

-Jon

If someone proposes a minor correction, you must debate it until your fingers bleed.

Win.

Re: Anti-secession: Reductios

scineram — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:26:03 GMT

Morty:

You cannot refuse to enter into a society in which free association is the rule.

LOL! I will take that.

Re: Anti-secession: Reductios

Morty — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 05:46:19 GMT

You cannot refuse to enter into a society in which free association is the rule.

Re: Anti-secession: Reductios

liberty student — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 04:20:48 GMT

Jon Irenicus:

Minor correction: it's reductiones.

-Jon

If someone proposes a minor correction, you must debate it until your fingers bleed.

Re: Anti-secession: Reductios

fsk — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 03:29:52 GMT

How about this one:

The same principle that allows a 1% taxation rate allows a 99% taxation rate.

Re: Anti-secession: Reductios

Taylor — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 02:24:44 GMT

~ If someone propositions you for paid sexual relations, you may not refuse.

~ You may not quit your job or switch employers.

~ You may not emigrate to a different country.

~ You may not switch internet, phone, or television providers.

~ You must allow entry into your home for anyone who so desires.

~ You must agree if someone offers to purchase a priceless family heirloom, at any cost.

Re: Anti-secession: Reductios

Jon Irenicus — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 18:39:22 GMT

Minor correction: it's reductiones.

-Jon

Anti-secession: Reductios

Sage — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 18:34:39 GMT

The philosophical principle underlying secession seems to be the right to control your property, and thus the right to free association; to refuse to enter an agreement.

So, the opposite principle, for rejecting secession, would have to be that you cannot refuse to enter an agreement; you are a slave to anyone who wishes to "contract" with you.

Taken to its logical conclusion, the case against secession can be reduced to absurdity.

For example, if you cannot refuse any agreement, you cannot:

-shop at one grocery store and then patronize a different store

-an abused wife cannot leave her husband; in fact, all divorce would be illegal

-you cannot move out of your neighborhood

-you cannot refuse to sell your house to a willing buyer

...and so on.

Does anyone else have any reductios to add? Have fun!