Political Theory

Re: I am preparing to debate George Klosko

alsdjfalsdjfos — Tue, 28 Aug 2012 23:10:06 GMT

I've met people from both. Most were frat boys and there wasn't much to pick between.

Well, have fun with your debate, let me know how it goes.

Re: I am preparing to debate George Klosko

National Acrobat — Tue, 28 Aug 2012 22:38:21 GMT

alsdjfalsdjfos:

If you go to Columbia and end up teaching at a public school, there's something wrong. That's all I'm saying.

edit: I mean, UCLA or something might be fine, but UVA is the ivy of degree mills. Their undergraduate pass rate is like 90% for 1250 SATs.

Pretty sure you're trolling, but just in case you actually have no clue what you're talking about, UVA has a very respectable political science program and the man is an endowed chair. There's no way you can discredit his credentials by disrespecting the institution he works for.

And UCLA might be fine? A top 10 program is just a 'might' huh?

Re: I am preparing to debate George Klosko

The Texas Trigger — Tue, 28 Aug 2012 22:26:40 GMT

While I cannot speak to any great detail about the programs of UVA vs UCLA, I will say the the students I have met from UVA vastly exceed the intelligence of those whom I have met from UCLA. UVA is a great school, as universities go, that it. I think they are all kind of rubbish anyway.

@GotLucky: Thanks!

Re: I am preparing to debate George Klosko

Wheylous — Tue, 28 Aug 2012 21:37:23 GMT

Everyone should know that CO₂ isnt a pollution. Its part of our life blood! Animals breathe it out and plants 'breathe' it in. Calling carbon dioxide a pollution is like calling water a pollutant. That terminology is just environmentalist propaganda.

If it does harm to other people's property and interferes with their use, then it is pollution. Just as tomatoes are not pollution, but if everyone dumps their tomatoes into the Mississippi you're gonna have pollution.

Re: I am preparing to debate George Klosko

alsdjfalsdjfos — Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:48:04 GMT

If you go to Columbia and end up teaching at a public school, there's something wrong. That's all I'm saying.

edit: I mean, UCLA or something might be fine, but UVA is the ivy of degree mills. Their undergraduate pass rate is like 90% for 1250 SATs.

Re: I am preparing to debate George Klosko

gotlucky — Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:46:28 GMT

@The Texas Trigger

I don't know if this will help you, but Roderick Long has a speech/essay called Libertarian Anarchism: Responses to Ten Objections. It's worth the read even if it's not directly helpful. Maybe it will give you some ideas.

Good luck with your debate!

Re: I am preparing to debate George Klosko

Ark de Grande — Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:39:12 GMT

I THINK these issues may be discussed in Ryan Faulk's 'For An Emergent Governance'. You can find that booklet on Scribd.

Re: I am preparing to debate George Klosko

grant.w.underwood — Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:32:04 GMT

how and why did this debate come about?

GL btw.

Re: I am preparing to debate George Klosko

The Texas Trigger — Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:23:53 GMT

alsdjfalsdjfos:
they don't even have a serious sports team to compensate. They're like division III football.

I hope this is a joke of some kind. If it is, good one. if not, who gives a shit?

As for Klosko, he is legit. I respect him for his humility (at least in rhetoric) and his down to Earth nature. I do not attend UVA, nor do I live in virginia.

Re: I am preparing to debate George Klosko

National Acrobat — Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:13:46 GMT

That's what I thought.

Re: I am preparing to debate George Klosko

alsdjfalsdjfos — Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:08:16 GMT

It's a public school, they don't even have a serious sports team to compensate. They're like division III football.

Re: I am preparing to debate George Klosko

National Acrobat — Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:01:42 GMT

alsdjfalsdjfos:

It's okay if it doesn't go well, UVA is a crappy school anyway.

Not sure what that means. Looking at the guys cv he's pretty legit. By my count he has half a dozen Oxford Press books, four APSR's (the top journal in political science and phenominal for a theorist) and plenty of publications in top subfield journals.

Re: I am preparing to debate George Klosko

alsdjfalsdjfos — Tue, 28 Aug 2012 19:44:02 GMT

It's okay if it doesn't go well, UVA is a crappy school anyway.

Re: I am preparing to debate George Klosko

National Acrobat — Tue, 28 Aug 2012 19:40:05 GMT

I don't see anything wrong with labeling cardon dioxide introduced into the atmosphere through burning oil and coal pollution.

What is pollution?

Re: I am preparing to debate George Klosko

grant.w.underwood — Tue, 28 Aug 2012 19:23:01 GMT

im booing the notion that CO₂is pollution. Everyone should know that CO₂ isnt a pollution. Its part of our life blood! Animals breathe it out and plants 'breathe' it in. Calling carbon dioxide a pollution is like calling water a pollutant. That terminology is just environmentalist propaganda.

Personally I dont believe that nonsense, but like you im not an expert though i have read significant amount on it some years ago. (Dont want to hijack the thread so thats all i'll say)