Political Theory

Re: Open borders would make America a third-world nation within a year

jmorris84 — Tue, 13 Nov 2012 03:06:34 GMT

MissMapleLeag:
too many immigrants would be coming in and not enough jobs to support everyone, and not to mention the crime rate will go up because of them. Look at the scandinavian countries and Australia that have strict border control and they're the happiest places in the world.

Ok, racist.

Re: Open borders would make America a third-world nation within a year

Consumariat — Tue, 13 Nov 2012 01:11:29 GMT

Are people on here actually disputing the higher crimes relative to blacks and Hispanics?

No. They are disputing the cause of this disparity.

Re: Open borders would make America a third-world nation within a year

Anenome — Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:50:28 GMT

To say this, OP, means that you don't realize what makes America a first-world nation in the first place. The answer is primarily invested capital, rights protections, and how cheap capital is here.

You could have the entire world immigrate here and it wouldn't change already invested capital.

The real problem would be all the benefits given to people who live here, which is a completely optional facet of our society and a foolish reason to try to stop immigration.

In a free-society without compulsory welfare, another person moving to that free society does not increase anyone else's burdens. That's how things should be.

Re: Open borders would make America a third-world nation within a year

shackleford — Sat, 10 Nov 2012 19:13:31 GMT

Are people on here actually disputing the higher crimes relative to blacks and Hispanics?

Re: Open borders would make America a third-world nation within a year

Buzz Killington — Sat, 03 Nov 2012 21:42:15 GMT

Oh yes i forgot, people born in mexico and people born in united states are 2 totally different types of humans and should not be mixed up whatsoever.

This, even though he was being sarcastic. Even if you don't give two shits about your own culture and only care about "LIBERTAAAAY", latinos overwhelmingly support big government policies. You're going to have to choose between liberty and open borders.

Re: Open borders would make America a third-world nation within a year

John Ess — Sat, 03 Nov 2012 21:34:57 GMT

The word 'third world' means that the country is not aligned with US (first world) or Soviet Union (second world).

Outside of that it has no meaning.

Re: Open borders would make America a third-world nation within a year

Autolykos — Sat, 03 Nov 2012 13:39:54 GMT

Apropos to what Malachi said, I recommend everyone checking out this and this.

Re: Open borders would make America a third-world nation within a year

Sebastian — Sat, 03 Nov 2012 11:36:11 GMT

Scandinavia have STRICT border control? You are delusional....

Re: Open borders would make America a third-world nation within a year

Live_Free_Or_Die — Sat, 03 Nov 2012 09:57:06 GMT

@NonAntiAnarchist

Who cares about trolls. They are lucky I am not running the forum. Not only would I post their ip address but after I looked them up and found out who they are I would post their address, picture, and a bio. I like to think of them more like cochroaches, when you turn the light on they head for the nearest crack or crevice.

Re: Open borders would make America a third-world nation within a year

Samuel Smith — Sat, 03 Nov 2012 08:20:13 GMT

Scandinavia has strict border controls? Have you heard of the European Union?

Norway, Sweden, Denmark, and Finland have all got higher suicide rates than the US.
Norway, depression hits half the country.

Re: Open borders would make America a third-world nation within a year

Aaron — Sat, 03 Nov 2012 06:21:41 GMT

^^^^

He's right. I knew kylio/missmapleleaf/et. all was a troll months ago. I think the word is 'poe'. I've seen atheists do this where they pretend to be religious, but normal religious arguments are so stupid anyway that it's sometimes difficult to discern if what they're saying is genuine or a parody.

Re: Open borders would make America a third-world nation within a year

NonAntiAnarchist — Sat, 03 Nov 2012 05:31:56 GMT

You guys need to get better at recognizing trolls. It can't get any easier in this case. No one is this stupid, and if they appear this stupid, it's because they're putting so little effort into their posts that they still qualify as a troll.

Re: Open borders would make America a third-world nation within a year

Live_Free_Or_Die — Sat, 03 Nov 2012 05:30:45 GMT

@Jargon

I don't believe anyone is responsible for anything but their own actions . . .

However, if you are going to shit on an entire race of people, incorporate them into a political body of second class citizenship because you do not believe they are equal, then treat them separate but almost equal for a century, set the law against them, etc. I find it entirely unreasonable to pass judgement on the race that has been on the receiving end of tyranny. Furthermore certain elitist whites appear to equally discriminate against all races and have no problem shitting on everyone so long as they can maintain their power and those bastards are going to have to find a new home other than the planet earth.

Re: Open borders would make America a third-world nation within a year

Malachi — Sat, 03 Nov 2012 05:00:06 GMT

Troncat, no one cares anymore

Re: Open borders would make America a third-world nation within a year

MissMapleLeaf — Sat, 03 Nov 2012 04:55:17 GMT

It's not about illegal immigrants, it is about ethnicity. THe blacks and hispanics bring a lot of crime wherever they go