Political Theory

Re: Skipping breakfast?

vive la insurrection — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 05:50:02 GMT

Generally speaking, it's good for the metabolism, energy, and focus needed for the day. As always, a good diet can be related to feeling better in general both physically and mentally.

I think if one can be up for about an hour or two before they have to do anything it's for the best.

Re: Skipping breakfast?

Elric — Sat, 26 Jan 2013 05:16:19 GMT

Are there special dangers in relation to mass produced milk from cows that give like 30 liters of milk per day and what not?

Depends on what you mean by dangers. There is a difference between pasteurized milk and milk that hasn't had its enzymes destroyed. There is also a difference between A1 and A2 milk.

Do they stuff them full of special hormones which you then consume with milk that will make you grow gargantum breasts and ergo look silly?

Look silly? Pfff, you'll never have to buy drinks in any bar you go to again.

Re: Skipping breakfast?

jmorris84 — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 15:49:57 GMT

Raw milk just tastes so much better then the mass produced rice water that you usually see at most grocery stores.

Re: Skipping breakfast?

Kelvin Silva — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 07:32:52 GMT

I would think so.

I only drink Raw milk from grass fed cows. Costs a bit but for me its its quite worth it.

Re: Skipping breakfast?

Marko — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 06:41:16 GMT

Since this has stopped being a thread on rock n' roll and turned into a topic on milk I have a question.

Are there special dangers in relation to mass produced milk from cows that give like 30 liters of milk per day and what not? Do they stuff them full of special hormones which you then consume with milk that will make you grow gargantum breasts and ergo look silly?

Re: Skipping breakfast?

Blargg — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 03:46:26 GMT

Got any sources on these two kinds of lactose? I'm not finding anything on the web. Wikipedia doesn't mention different kinds of lactose, nor show different chemical structures.

Re: Skipping breakfast?

Vanitas Nomen — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 02:55:30 GMT

Your first points seems to imply that there is only one kind of lactose, however there is a stark difference between human lactose and bovine lactose.
50% of the Hadza population are lactose(bovine) tolerant - with no history of domesticating cattle whut?

Re: Skipping breakfast?

Clayton — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:36:14 GMT

Well the main reason you gave in your post for why milk is bad was that most people are lactose intolerant, but if he is not one of them, then why should that affect him?

I don't see a compelling argument against milk by Mark Sisson except that most commercial milk comes from cows eating grains and subject to all kind of artiificial crap. I can buy into that. But organic whole milk by grass fed cows? What is wrong with that?

He generally discourages milk consumption.

My point in pointing out lactose intolerance is that:

a) It shows that lactose tolerance has a specific function... the consumption of mother's milk during infancy and perhaps very young childhood

b) As a corollary, it shows that the ordinary adult body* wants to suppress the consumption of milk after a certain point.

I can't find any cites right now, but I recall reading about infantilizing effects (increased docility, servility) as a result of milk consumption. I speculate that this might be why the ordinary adult body wants to stop milk consumption - infantile behaviors are no longer adaptive.

Clayton -

*In countries where dairy cows have not been domesticated over many generations... in some European countries, lactose tolerance is as high as 90%... but this is merely the exception that proves the rule...

Re: Skipping breakfast?

Clayton — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:23:25 GMT

And some of us probably need to be eaten. It's the primal way.

No doubt - Let's set some Predator drones on Obama's ass and see whether he survives or not... if he doesn't, well, it's only fair... and if he does, why, he'll be much healthier, wiser and full of appreciation for life... his own as well as the lives of those in Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia and wherever else he regularly authorizes drone strikes.

Clayton -

Re: Skipping breakfast?

Willy Truth — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 19:55:05 GMT

@Clayton,

you can't exactly simulate having a pack of wolves on your ass. Well, you can, but unlike our forbears who might have been able to survive such a situation, you and I will just get eaten... LOL

That may be true. But being chased by wolves is a very effective and natural antidepressant. Nothing brings back the vigor of life like the prospect of being ripped apart by a gnashing set of jaws. And some of us probably need to be eaten. It's the primal way.

Re: Skipping breakfast?

DD5 — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 15:26:01 GMT

Clayton:
What is silly is the unquestioning acceptance of the US dairy industry's "Drink milk, it's good for you",

Well the main reason you gave in your post for why milk is bad was that most people are lactose intolerant, but if he is not one of them, then why should that affect him?

I don't see a compelling argument against milk by Mark Sisson except that most commercial milk comes from cows eating grains and subject to all kind of artiificial crap. I can buy into that. But organic whole milk by grass fed cows? What is wrong with that?

Re: Skipping breakfast?

Andris Birkmanis — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:50:23 GMT

The hormones in milk may have an infantilizing effect... increased docility, servility, etc.

Aha, Freedom4me warned us the agg was designed by the gov! If only we listened to him!

Re: Skipping breakfast?

Vitor — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:36:38 GMT

I like milk quite a lot, but I try to drink lactose-free one whenever possible, it makes much easier to digest.

Re: Skipping breakfast?

Clayton — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 10:10:31 GMT

Emphasis on "not-so-voluntary" though.

Agreed. And this is a central part of Sisson's philosophy. Human beings are obviously lazy creatures! But so what? What's wrong with that?? Laze around in the Sun until you have to go do something. Then go do it. Then go back to laying in the Sun.

But the same limitation (can't simulate non-voluntariness) also applies to the sprint routines in Sisson's workouts... you can't exactly simulate having a pack of wolves on your ass. Well, you can, but unlike our forbears who might have been able to survive such a situation, you and I will just get eaten... LOL

Clayton -

Re: Skipping breakfast?

Willy Truth — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 08:01:16 GMT

@Elric

Nothing wrong with fasting. Just skeptical of their efficacy. I've experimented with a lot of diets, but never fat loss diets, so I can't speak from personal experience. I did have a Muslim friend in college who was a workout warrior. During Ramadan he would lose 10-ish pounds and about 1/3 of his strength (which he found distressing). But I suppose his body fat went down too.

@KelvinSilva

Eat when you're hungry, drink water when you're not. Milk and sandwiches, small amounts of bread only when meat is involved. No candy. Lots of colorful veggies. Vinegar. Avoid all softdrinks (except for ginger ale to mix with your bourbon). Meat with every meal.