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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Political Theory</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/8.aspx</link><description>Discussion of political theory.</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008.5 SP2 (Build: 40407.4157)</generator><item><title>Re: Semantic Trouble with Tibor Machan's Minarchism</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/88435.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 14:55:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:88435</guid><dc:creator>Jon Irenicus</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/88435.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=8&amp;PostID=88435</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Keep in mind Machan is a Randian minarchist, and so believes in voluntary contributions to government &amp;amp;c., and not so much taxes. Many minarchists would probably not shy away from saying the government does have some kind of ownership over an entire region. If they allow for secession down to the individual level though, it&amp;#39;s a matter for debate just how they&amp;#39;re going to differentiate this arrangement from anarchism.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Semantic Trouble with Tibor Machan's Minarchism</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/88410.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 08:07:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:88410</guid><dc:creator>Dynamix</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/88410.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=8&amp;PostID=88410</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;The &amp;quot;&lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/emoticons/emotion-31.gif" alt="Time" /&gt;ne&amp;quot; written above should read &amp;quot;[ o ]ne&amp;quot; as in the word, &amp;quot;one.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Semantic Trouble with Tibor Machan's Minarchism</title><link>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/88409.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 08:06:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">944abf2b-d1be-4bf2-990d-438cb0e377e9:88409</guid><dc:creator>Dynamix</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/thread/88409.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>https://archive.freecapitalists.org:443/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=8&amp;PostID=88409</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;






 
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&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;[Disclaimer: I do not believe in &amp;ldquo;natural law&amp;rdquo; or &amp;ldquo;natural
rights.&amp;rdquo; I will, nevertheless, speak of &amp;ldquo;rights&amp;rdquo; for the sake of convenience. I
do profess libertarian anarchism on other grounds.]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;I was rifling through one of my back issues of &lt;i&gt;The
Journal of Libertarian Studies&lt;/i&gt; (&amp;ldquo;Symposium: Market Anarchism, Pro and Con,&amp;rdquo;
Spring, 2007) when I found, in response to the libertarian anarchist challenge
presented in that same issue by Walter Block, what I thought might be the
definitive justification for minarchism by Tibor Machan. What I found
disappointed me.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Block, in his essay, brings forth the standard definition of
government with &amp;ldquo;If a &amp;lsquo;government&amp;rsquo; collects no taxes and does not use coercion
to preclude the competition of other &amp;lsquo;governments&amp;rsquo; in &amp;lsquo;its&amp;rsquo; area, then it is
not a government at all, but rather a private defense-insurance agency, very
much a part of the legitimate marketplace&amp;rdquo; (p. 73). Most of us would I agree, I
think, that the second of the two criteria, the territorial monopoly, is the
more critical one. Machan responds accordingly:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;ldquo;Defense-insurance agencies are governments of a certain
type. The only interesting question is whether competition among them can take
place within the same geographical area, in what I have characterized the
&amp;lsquo;crisscross&amp;rsquo; fashion (the way pizza and newspaper delivery services can all
operate with the same geographical area) or would have to service
citizen-clients within a homogenous region (the way electrical, water-supply,
or flood-control services are provided within such regions). If the former,
then there can be competing governments (or defense-insurance firms) servicing
people in the same region; if the latter then governments (or defense-insurance
firms) would have to provide their services in separate regions. Whatever
competition were to take place would follow the requirements of the services in
question.&amp;rdquo; (p. 94).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Notice that neither of the two writers addresses one very
important concern: does the defense-insurance provider in question &lt;i&gt;own&lt;/i&gt;
the entirety of the land that it excludes competition on? It seems to me that
this is the place where a sane definition of government hinges. For if both
Block and Machan agree that defense-insurance firm X may only justifiably
preclude other defense-insurance firms from offering their competing services&lt;i&gt;
on X&amp;rsquo;s own property&lt;/i&gt;, then Block and Machan are in the same political boat,
whatever we choose to call it. Machan seems to confirm this idea of ownership
on page 95: &amp;ldquo;[With respect to secession,] &lt;img src="http://mises.org/Community/emoticons/emotion-31.gif" alt="Time" /&gt;ne could even remain in the same
territory and reject citizenship [or &amp;ldquo;subscription to service&amp;rdquo;], so long as
this does not involve blocking services to others with whom one has signed up
for the services of government, that is, fellow citizens.&amp;rdquo;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;A statement like this, from Machan&amp;rsquo;s natural rights
perspective, only makes sense if the defense-insurance firm in question owns
all of the land that it would be transporting its services on; because if I,
the owner of the property right of the entirety of the Central Time Zone,
decide to subscribe to your Eastern Time Zone-based defense-insurance firm, and
then I later decide to cancel, then it seems to me that your firm cannot
transport its services to Pacific Time Zone clients without my permission. If I
do not give it, I certainly &lt;i&gt;am&lt;/i&gt; &amp;ldquo;blocking services to others&amp;rdquo;&amp;mdash;and I am
doing this, moreover, in perfectly justifiable fashion so far as the
imperatives of Machan&amp;rsquo;s &amp;ldquo;natural rights&amp;rdquo; go. In making such a statement as the
above Machan forces himself to oblige&amp;mdash;however implicitly&amp;mdash;that the
defense-insurance firm that he calls &amp;ldquo;government&amp;rdquo; &lt;i&gt;must own the entirety of
the territory that it excludes others from competing on&lt;/i&gt;, or else he must
instead concede to the definition of Block that implies, by contrast,
non-total-ownership.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Here we reach Machan&amp;rsquo;s semantic trouble. Why suppose that we
should call this type of property-owning defense-insurance firm a &amp;ldquo;government&amp;rdquo;?
Machan no doubt has in mind magisterial firms that come to naturally monopolize
territories on a citywide, or perhaps even greater, level. But if Bob Slate,
middle-class owner of defense-insurance firm Y, adjudicates by monopoly all the
legal disputes that occur on &lt;i&gt;his&lt;/i&gt; small, privately owned territory, then
he does nothing &lt;i&gt;qualitatively different&lt;/i&gt; from the citywide agency. That
Bob represents a mere &amp;ldquo;scaling down&amp;rdquo; is better illustrated if we assume that he
is self-employed, has no employees beneath him, and the land that he owns and
monopolizes his defense-insurance services on is but a quarter square-acre in
size. For kicks, we may assume that Bob Slate, unlike the citywide agency, &lt;i&gt;does
not advertise his services&lt;/i&gt; (he doesn&amp;rsquo;t have the time&amp;mdash;he&amp;rsquo;s playing &lt;i&gt;Wii
Fit&lt;/i&gt;). The citywide firm and Bob both have their own land, both legislate
within the boundaries of &amp;ldquo;natural law&amp;rdquo; on that land, and both reserve the right
to settle the disputes of their land&amp;rsquo;s subscriber-tenants with said
legislation. Are we really to be expected to call Bob, the scaled-down, one-man
crank job, a &amp;ldquo;government of a certain type&amp;rdquo;? Given the implications of Machan&amp;rsquo;s
analysis, it seems hard to understand why we shouldn&amp;rsquo;t.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;I claim that the term &amp;ldquo;government&amp;rdquo; is most sensibly employed
for an institution that exists by &lt;i&gt;qualitative difference&lt;/i&gt; from the social
constructs that surround it, and I openly appeal to common intuition in doing
so. Otherwise we may just as well say, &amp;ldquo;Yeah, Rick Hopkins sells cars, but on
the other hand we might call him a &amp;lsquo;government,&amp;rsquo; as well&amp;mdash;he, like Bob, just may
not advertise his defense-insurance services. We&amp;rsquo;ll have to ask him to find
out.&amp;rdquo; This is clearly very silly. We have virtually the entire weight of
history to inform us that what we have &lt;i&gt;always&lt;/i&gt; called &amp;ldquo;government&amp;rdquo; &lt;i&gt;has&lt;/i&gt;
monopolized territory that &lt;i&gt;it did not justly acquire the entirety of&lt;/i&gt;. We
have no need to transpose this term to private defense-insurance firms of all
sizes and advertising proclivities.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Let those who called themselves non-rights-violating
minarchists finally put this semantic quibble aside and join the rest of us
libertarians at the anarchist table. Maybe Tibor Machan won&amp;rsquo;t be far behind.&lt;/p&gt;
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