<raeg> OMG GET THE EFFIN RPG ELEMENTS OUT OF MY FPS, KK? X_X </raeg>
"The power of liberty going forward is in decentralization. Not in leaders, but in decentralized activism. In a market process." -- liberty student
Daniel Muffinburg:CoD MW2 for the PS3 is the best war game ever, except for when you die even though you shot the other person first.
United Offensive was really good too. Also, sell the PS3 and buy a 360.
Eric:United Offensive was really good too. Also, sell the PS3 and buy a 360.
That is what I told him, but he has a bizarre value scale.
'Men do not change, they unmask themselves' - Germaine de Stael
Laughing Man: Eric:United Offensive was really good too. Also, sell the PS3 and buy a 360. That is what I told him, but he has a bizarre value scale.
I do have a 360, but I hardly use it anymore and your value scale is objectively wrong and irrational. The aesthetics of the PS3 are better than those of the 360 and the PC, which means...
To paraphrase Marc Faber: We're all doomed, but that doesn't mean that we can't make money in the process. Rabbi Lapin: "Let's make bricks!" Stephan Kinsella: "Say you and I both want to make a German chocolate cake."
Daniel Muffinburg:I do have a 360, but I hardly use it anymore and your value scale is objectively wrong and irrational. The aesthetics of the PS3 are better than those of the 360 and the PC, which means...
Again if 360 had uncharted and infamous..the PS3 would be toast...warm buttery toast.
Sebastian del Rey!
I got a decent laptop and a PS3, so all the "exclusives" the XBOX 360 gets just comes to PC too (plus who would want to play Half Life 2 on Xbox when you can on PC controls?). Best of both worlds. Uncharted is a lot of fun, but I bought a ps3 mostly for MGS4, the more appeal to Japanese developers, and companies like Naughty Dog and Insomniac who tend to develop more for the Playstation. Plus I still own a crapload of PS1 and PS2 games that I still play.
Personally, I hate the fanboy culture. They are hardware, and software. It's just video games. They have different appeal and different games.
Also random: Any Linux users here? I used to run Ubuntu, or Sabayon on my desktop. I sometimes run Ubuntu on my laptop, and there is a linux os default in the bios of it.
I also have Yellowdog Linux running with XFCE on my PS3
Freedom has always been the only route to progress.
Laughing Man:
I think it's time for an intervention.
Capital Pumper: Laughing Man: Can you guys let me know how this game is? :p I think it's time for an intervention.
Can you guys let me know how this game is? :p
Laughing Man:Again if 360 had uncharted and infamous..the PS3 would be toast...warm buttery toast.
The two things helping the PS3 is free online gaming and past Playstation success. What Sony has not learned is that price rules. This is the main reason why the Wii was killing both of them in sales and the 360 has been more successful than the PS3. The absolute only reason I bought a 360 was because of the price. The Xbox 360 arcade at $200 is a fantastic buy and has taken away the Wii's price advantage. I am well aware of the title library differences and graphic capabilities between the Wii and the 360/PS3 but parents didn't care. The differences between the 360 and PS3 are much more nuanced. The PS3 is in a much better position now with their $300 slim version which comes with built in Wi-Fi, something Microsoft charges you $100 for using their adapter. IMO Sony's biggest mistake was including Blu-ray support in the PS3 which added god knows how much to the console's cost.
"Anarchism misunderstands the real nature of man. It would be practicable only in a world of angels and saints" - Ludwig von Mises
Blu-ray is one of the reasons why I bought the PS3.
Daniel Muffinburg:Blu-ray is one of the reasons why I bought the PS3.
Before or after the HD war was settled? So you wanted to play Blu-ray movies on your PS3 or do you believe PS3 games will benefit from the extra disc space?
I refused to buy one before the dust settled and wanted to wait until they came down to a realistic price, they are now under $100.
Poptech: Daniel Muffinburg:Blu-ray is one of the reasons why I bought the PS3. Before or after the HD war was settled? So you wanted to play Blu-ray movies on your PS3 or do you believe PS3 games will benefit from the extra disc space? I refused to buy one before the dust settled and wanted to wait until they came down to a realistic price, they are now under $100.
After the HD war settled. I had a 360 with HD DVD player before the HD war settled, however.
Anyone else incredibly amused by the new overly pretentious Playstation commercials? "It only does EVERYTHING"
Please console people go away. Stop embarrassing yourself. Nobody that calls himself a gamer plays your silly lowest common denominator games.
Hardcore 200 clicks a minute PC game or die.
Daniel Muffinburg: I do have a 360, but I hardly use it anymore and your value scale is objectively wrong and irrational. The aesthetics of the PS3 are better than those of the 360 and the PC, which means...
The sycophants of the Microsoft exploiting pigs are trying to pull the wool over our eyes with their bourgeoisie logic. They will never be able to debunk the Sony Theory of Value. Right on comrade!
Capital Pumper: Daniel Muffinburg: I do have a 360, but I hardly use it anymore and your value scale is objectively wrong and irrational. The aesthetics of the PS3 are better than those of the 360 and the PC, which means... The sycophants of the Microsoft exploiting pigs are trying to pull the wool over our eyes with their bourgeoisie logic. They will never be able to debunk the Sony Theory of Value. Right on comrade!
lololol
Marko:Nobody that calls himself a gamer plays your silly lowest common denominator games.
Speaking of PC games, I have to say FPS play better on the PC thanks to the mouse and keyboard but you can't get a $200 gaming PC. Personally I stopped playing consoles outside of sports games until online gaming took off. Overall I still prefer my PC.
Poptech: Marko:Nobody that calls himself a gamer plays your silly lowest common denominator games. Speaking of PC games, I have to say FPS play better on the PC thanks to the mouse and keyboard but you can't get a $200 gaming PC. Personally I stopped playing consoles outside of sports games until online gaming took off. Overall I still prefer my PC.
Simple, next time you need to buy a new computer, spend a couple extra bucks. Good computers for gaming are getting really cheap now.
Libertyandlife:Simple, next time you need to buy a new computer, spend a couple extra bucks. Good computers for gaming are getting really cheap now.
I build my own but it is not as simple as you think, depending on the game's requirements, a good reliable gaming PC can still cost you and certainly more than $200.
Poptech: Libertyandlife:Simple, next time you need to buy a new computer, spend a couple extra bucks. Good computers for gaming are getting really cheap now. I build my own but it is not as simple as you think, depending on the game's requirements, a good reliable gaming PC can still cost you and certainly more than $200.
I've done the same, I have a desktop which I built myself in this very room. I spent a good 1400 dollars. My point is, lets say your buying $700 laptop, spend an extra 200 bucks, and you'll most likely have something worth gaming with. Unless the manufacturer who is selling is Apple, Alienware or some other overly expensive company. For example, you can get a good gaming laptop for Asus for pretty cheap now.
I have no idea how you get it down to around $200.
Daniel Muffinburg: Laughing Man: Daniel Muffinburg: I blame the server lag, anyway. Noob! By the way, I'm up to a lvl 45 major. Not bad. I'm at lvl 69.
Laughing Man: Daniel Muffinburg: I blame the server lag, anyway. Noob! By the way, I'm up to a lvl 45 major.
Daniel Muffinburg: I blame the server lag, anyway.
Noob! By the way, I'm up to a lvl 45 major.
Not bad. I'm at lvl 69.
Correction: I'm at lvl 70, a commander.
Daniel Muffinburg: Daniel Muffinburg: Laughing Man: Daniel Muffinburg: I blame the server lag, anyway. Noob! By the way, I'm up to a lvl 45 major. Not bad. I'm at lvl 69. Correction: I'm at lvl 70, a commander.
Modern Warfare 2?
I'm only up to lvl 44 or so
I played the first Modern Warfare a little bit and enjoyed it, but not as much as the original WWII series of CoD games I used to play competitively.
As far as I know MW2 has no dedicated server support? Boo, I'm glad I don't play games anymore then. That would've pissed me off. (That, and the fact that upgrading my PC every year is an incredibly costly venture when parts need to be imported into South Africa )
I can't wait for Mass Effect 2 to come out. 4 days feels like a lifetime. I felt this way before Fallout 3 too.
You guys care, I'm sure.
Daniel Muffinburg:I have no idea how you get it down to around $200.
You can't, not for gaming, any new PC that cheap will have integrated graphics (even the best is worthless for modern games) and a free OS (Linux), thus severely limiting your gaming options. The fact that you can buy what is effectively a gaming PC (Xbox 360) for $200 cannot be matched in the PC world. Again my point is that price drives everything. Consoles are doing better than PC gaming (Outside of MMOs) for just this reason.
Poptech: You can't, not for gaming, any new PC that cheap will have integrated graphics (even the best is worthless for modern games) and a free OS (Linux), thus severely limiting your gaming options. The fact that you can buy what is effectively a gaming PC (Xbox 360) for $200 cannot be matched in the PC world. Again my point is that price drives everything. Consoles are doing better than PC gaming (Outside of MMOs) for just this reason.
QFT. I recently spent like 1200 dollars on a gaming computer (and I'll probably need a new graphics card in like six months or something) and my brand new xbox, including hd cables and a two year warranty only cost me 250.
bloomj31: I can't wait for Mass Effect 2 to come out. 4 days feels like a lifetime. I felt this way before Fallout 3 too. You guys care, I'm sure.
I played both left 4 dead 1 and 2 the second it came out on steam, I preordered them both a month in advance.
Poptech: Daniel Muffinburg:I have no idea how you get it down to around $200. You can't, not for gaming, any new PC that cheap will have integrated graphics (even the best is worthless for modern games) and a free OS (Linux), thus severely limiting your gaming options. The fact that you can buy what is effectively a gaming PC (Xbox 360) for $200 cannot be matched in the PC world. Again my point is that price drives everything. Consoles are doing better than PC gaming (Outside of MMOs) for just this reason.
Your totally right. The Xbox is an example of the market. PC gaming was losing popularity to the N64 and PS1, microsoft made the system in reaction. Consoles were gaining popularity due to price. Ever noticed how the first one is as pig as a pc, looks like one, has modified usb ports for controller ports, a hardrive, and is named after the direct x software.
My point was simply to spend extra if your investing in a new pc, if you want the gaming that is.
Assassin's Creed 2 is educational. No seriously, did you know Machiavelli was an assassin?
I thank you Ubisoft, for opening my eyes to the truth.
And I'm a level 80 warlock! ...oh, wrong game. <.<
Freedom of markets is positively correlated with the degree of evolution in any society...
Libertyandlife:PC gaming was losing popularity to the N64 and PS1, microsoft made the system in reaction. Consoles were gaining popularity due to price. Ever noticed how the first one is as pig as a pc, looks like one, has modified usb ports for controller ports, a hardrive, and is named after the direct x software.
Poptech:Consoles are doing better than PC gaming (Outside of MMOs) for just this reason.
Snowflake: Libertyandlife:PC gaming was losing popularity to the N64 and PS1, microsoft made the system in reaction. Consoles were gaining popularity due to price. Ever noticed how the first one is as pig as a pc, looks like one, has modified usb ports for controller ports, a hardrive, and is named after the direct x software. Maybe if they didn't have IP 'rights' over their software, a company could be formed to program a commercial emulator for consoles on the pc >< Poptech:Consoles are doing better than PC gaming (Outside of MMOs) for just this reason. MMOs.... but also FPS, RTS... and if you plug in a controller its the same thing. And despite PC gaming dieing, we still get a lot of the 'big' releases like Arkham Asylum and MW2..
And a lot of games are much better suited for PCs, both controller wise, and how it runs.
The PC as a gaming platform has been dead for years. Now that consoles have hard drives, networks, USB peripherals, high definition screens and the most advanced graphics chips, and yet still cost about the same as a mini-laptop with no gaming features, anyone would be a fool to develop games for the PC.
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I don't understand this discussion.
Liberarianism is about politics and coercion not video games.
Even if video games is tied with the state and the military has created some video games and is training gamers for war that doesn't make them Un-libertarian per se. As to opposing it from a moral argument outside libertarianism ,I don't see what's wrong with them either.
Paul Cantor calls them the future biggest artform.He reminds us that media which was once low culture now is considered high culture e.g. novels were once seen as trashy and encouraging sex now they are seen as classical and intellectual.He also has said in an interview he believes(cultural) conservatives should embrace not deride popular culture.
Think of it this way,It's better individuals shoot humans and are engaged in violence in unreal video games than doing it in real life. Afterall in this world of statism and postmodernist decay we all need a little bit of fantasy and escape from time to time.Plus If people are playing video games rather than voting or listening to media lies then that's commendable.
I don't really want to comment or read anything here.I have near zero in common with many of you.I may return periodically when there's something you need to know.
Near Mutualist/Libertarian Socialist.
Scott F: I don't understand this discussion. Liberarianism is about politics and coercion not video games. Even if video games is tied with the state and the military has created some video games and is training gamers for war that doesn't make them Un-libertarian per se. As to opposing it from a moral argument outside libertarianism ,I don't see what's wrong with them either. Paul Cantor calls them the future biggest artform.He reminds us that media which was once low culture now is considered high culture e.g. novels were once seen as trashy and encouraging sex now they are seen as classical and intellectual.He also has said in an interview he believes(cultural) conservatives should embrace not deride popular culture. Think of it this way,It's better individuals shoot humans and are engaged in violence in unreal video games than doing it in real life. Afterall in this world of statism and postmodernist decay we all need a little bit of fantasy and escape from time to time.Plus If people are playing video games rather than voting or listening to media lies then that's commendable.
Well first there was some confusion between some posters and Liberty Student, a whole lot of serious discussion, little debate, then it ended turning into a discussion soley on video games.
I strongly agree with the post, I have always seen video games as a new art/entertainment medium. It is why it gets more scrutiny, and people react more sensitively towards it.
Libertyandlife: Scott F: I don't understand this discussion. Liberarianism is about politics and coercion not video games. Even if video games is tied with the state and the military has created some video games and is training gamers for war that doesn't make them Un-libertarian per se. As to opposing it from a moral argument outside libertarianism ,I don't see what's wrong with them either. Paul Cantor calls them the future biggest artform.He reminds us that media which was once low culture now is considered high culture e.g. novels were once seen as trashy and encouraging sex now they are seen as classical and intellectual.He also has said in an interview he believes(cultural) conservatives should embrace not deride popular culture. Think of it this way,It's better individuals shoot humans and are engaged in violence in unreal video games than doing it in real life. Afterall in this world of statism and postmodernist decay we all need a little bit of fantasy and escape from time to time.Plus If people are playing video games rather than voting or listening to media lies then that's commendable. Well first there was some confusion between some posters and Liberty Student, a whole lot of serious discussion, little debate, then it ended turning into a discussion soley on video games. I strongly agree with the post, I have always seen video games as a new art/entertainment medium. It is why it gets more scrutiny, and people react more sensitively towards it.
Sorry I didn't mean I didn't understand as in I confused , I meant I don't see what the reasoning is behind the anti-video games position.
Maybe Libertystudent opposes glorification of violence.Ok.I disagree but ok.Only thing is that's a personal opinion or belief and not one related to libertarianism.Libertarianism neither opposes nor supports video games.Again remember libertarianism does not oppose violence per se just the initiation of violence.Since video games are not real and the characters in the game aren't , violence isn't Truly taking place.
One thought: if your argument was correct - video games involve coercion ,wouldn't that mean that video games would need to be banned?
If your argument is video games increase violence in real life, I'm not sure that's proven fact. Of course some have copied games but oftentimes there were psychological factors that inclined them to want to act that way that the games merely reinforced.
I think a number of major high profile libertarians play them and see no conflict.
Simulated violence IS NOT real violence that must be remembered.
I would argue( from a position not involving libertarianism) there is nothing immoral in simulated violence or any other act which in real life is immoral and (from a libertarian position) a crime i.e. rights violation/NAP violation.
Libertyand life : So I understand you, do you mean you agree with me or libertystudent?
sorry I didnt know what you meant by "I strongly agree with THE post".
I guess it was a typo, I mean THIS. I agreed with the things you were saying in your previous post.
Libertyandlife: bloomj31: I can't wait for Mass Effect 2 to come out. 4 days feels like a lifetime. I felt this way before Fallout 3 too. You guys care, I'm sure. I played both left 4 dead 1 and 2 the second it came out on steam, I preordered them both a month in advance.
You've heard the zombie song in L4D2 right?