Eugene: MaikU, if the United States government can distribute all empty American lands to the 300 million American citizens, who else can contend? These are empty lands.
MaikU, if the United States government can distribute all empty American lands to the 300 million American citizens, who else can contend? These are empty lands.
If US government owned the land (major problem for any state apologist), then theoretically it could distribute lands... but since there is no real owner, only arbitrary gang of thieves who get re-elected once in a term of years, that is just a fantasy tail.
Furthermore, empty lands not always were empty (well, at least not all of them). Some were taken from first inhabitants with force. So if it were possible to backtrack the heirs of those people, then it should belong to them, probably.
(english is not my native language, sorry for grammar.)
Assuming inheritance, your last statement is correct.
Not assuming inheritance, I still agree the USFG can't redistribute the lands.
Might we consider Vatican City a legitimate state under ancap principles? I don't think anyone is born there, it's entirely homesteaded, and everyone voluntarily works for the Catholic Church. I don't think anyone claims property there other than the Church.
If the property was voluntary contracted away after homesteading to the current owners, I suppose so. But was it?
Fool on the Hill: Might we consider Vatican City a legitimate state under ancap principles? I don't think anyone is born there, it's entirely homesteaded, and everyone voluntarily works for the Catholic Church. I don't think anyone claims property there other than the Church.
What makes it a state under acap principles? In other words, given your evidence for the Vatican being a state under ancap principles, what do you consider a non-state under ancap principles?
To paraphrase Marc Faber: We're all doomed, but that doesn't mean that we can't make money in the process. Rabbi Lapin: "Let's make bricks!" Stephan Kinsella: "Say you and I both want to make a German chocolate cake."
Sorry, is Vatican City a legitimate anarchist community?
The Vatican does not collect taxes. It is not a State. However (lest I be suspected of sympathizing with the Vatican), it is evil because it clearly works with States in a cooperative manner. The Church has long been an accomplice of the State.
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