@Clayton
Let the punishment fit the crime!
You need a strong dose of reading comprehension. Anenome said "the Muslim world". Are you telling me that the Muslim world observes the NAP? Really? The Saudi government observes the NAP? UAE? Yemen? really?
Look, I know enough about Islam to know that most of the world's Muslims do not practice Islam the way the followers of Muhammad did. Heads of state esp. butcher the religion. Go talk to any devout Muslim and they will confirm this.
Name me one time in history where the Caliphate attacked another state or people before they were attacked. I'm atheist myself but if I had to pick a religion it would be Islam.
So the Middle East is not the Muslim world? What is it then? Christian? Jewish? Atheist?
Look, I know enough about Islam to know that most of the world's Muslims do not practice Islam the way the followers of Muhammad did. Heads of state esp. butcher the religion. Go talk to any devout Muslim and they will confirm this. So the Middle East is not the Muslim world? What is it then? Christian? Jewish? Atheist?
I'm saying they practice a butchered form of Islam that's very far removed from what Islam originally was. Islam NEVER calls for aggression. In fact I'd say Islam is way more libertarian then Christianity or Judaism. The Muslim God is the minarchist version of the Christian/Jewish god.
I'm saying they practice a butchered form of Islam that's very far removed from what Islam originally was. Islam NEVER calls for aggression.
Again, reading comprehension would be of great help to you. Anenome said the "Muslim world". He did not say "people who practice Islam in the way that F4M says is correct".
The only people that argue that the Quran is not a hateful screed against non-muslims are people that haven't read it. The most important passage:
Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are those who have disbelieved, and they will not [ever] believe.
So, look at the worst punishments practiced within Islamic communities and extrapolate what you would expect as the treatment of non-muslims. The only thing that diminishes the mortal threat posed by believers of this book is the assumption that most people are too wimpy to do anything, sort of like how most KKK members did not personally lynch black people and most NSDAP members did not drive to the concentration camps to get in some target practice.
Clayton: Even the suicide bomber phenomenon is completely misrepresented. It's presented as some kind of inherent mind-control power of Islam to take emotionally vulnerable youths and turn them into maniacal automatons controlled by murderous mullahs. The fact is that suicide bombing is primarily motivated by the money. These are desperately poor people holed up in ghettos with little prospects of escape not only for themselves but for their extended family. Saddam Hussein was paying $25,000 a pop for suicide bombers. That's the equivalent of several million dollars to an American living in the inner city. They're doing it for the people they leave behind, to give them a chance in life. They're not crazy, they're not brainwashed, they're desperate. But the Mossad/MI6/CIA's lies continue to beam out to the masses 24/7.
Even the suicide bomber phenomenon is completely misrepresented. It's presented as some kind of inherent mind-control power of Islam to take emotionally vulnerable youths and turn them into maniacal automatons controlled by murderous mullahs. The fact is that suicide bombing is primarily motivated by the money. These are desperately poor people holed up in ghettos with little prospects of escape not only for themselves but for their extended family. Saddam Hussein was paying $25,000 a pop for suicide bombers. That's the equivalent of several million dollars to an American living in the inner city. They're doing it for the people they leave behind, to give them a chance in life. They're not crazy, they're not brainwashed, they're desperate. But the Mossad/MI6/CIA's lies continue to beam out to the masses 24/7.
I can agree with money being a motivator, but according to Robert Pape in his book Dying to Win: The Strategic Logic of Suicide Terrorism, the most important element in getting someone willing to commit suicide terrorism is occupation by a foreign force. The terrorists want “to make modern democracies withdraw military forces from the territory the terrorists view as their homeland.” When the occupiers leave, the suicide campaign stops.
The only role religion plays in this struggle, according to Pape, is that the willingness of the occupied to resort to suicide attacks increases when the occupying army is made of people who come from far away, look different and believe differently due to the fear that their entire way of life will come under attack.
@Anarcho: Thanks for that - I've seen Pape's book mentioned in LRC articles - I'll have to read it.
Clayton -