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Juan replied on Sat, Oct 11 2008 4:48 PM
MaxLiberty:
Yes, your idea of freedom is that no person anywhere in the world is trying to restrict you. If one person in the world is trying to violate your rights then you are a slave.
That's a silly strawman. By the way, it's not 'my' idea of freedom, but the libertarian idea of freedom. Or maybe it's petit-bourgeoisie freedom , as the marxists put it ?

February 17 - 1600 - Giordano Bruno is burnt alive by the catholic church.
Aquinas : "much more reason is there for heretics, as soon as they are convicted of heresy, to be not only excommunicated but even put to death."

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banned replied on Sat, Oct 11 2008 4:56 PM

Maxliberty:
Or you have to find ways to resist. You are resigned to your slavery. You are not a free man who has been enslaved, you are a slave who would like someone to free them. A free man who is enslaved is always seeking a way out and believes there is one, a slave who seeks to be free is always at the will of others.

You sound like the randroids.

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Maxliberty:
Can you be free if there is someone in the world who might rob you or harm you?

Free from coercion?

There seems to be a rash of people suffering from the Nirvana Fallacy Syndrome lately.

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Spideynw replied on Tue, Nov 11 2008 1:19 PM

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From the wikipedia;

As a social-economic system, slavery is a legal institution under which a person (called "a slave") is compelled to work for another (sometimes called "the master" or "slave owner"), under rules typically referred to as slave codes.

You know, I'm not seeing too much difference between the two.

This is an excellent point.

So, if a slave does not try to run away, does that mean the the slave has "consented" to slavery?

At most, I think only 5% of the adult population would need to stop cooperating to have real change.

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