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eliotn posted on Mon, Mar 16 2009 11:50 AM

I asked someone who wants a communist society about how the planners would distribute goods and she responded "surveys".  Would it work in practice?

Schools are labour camps.

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Answered (Verified) Eric replied on Mon, Mar 16 2009 11:58 AM
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So he advocates no privacy? What if you want to buy something a little well embarrasing? Would you openly say in a public survey you want that? How long would it take to get your good and what if you change your mind? In a market economy I can go buy Doritos cooler ranch, and then go back and decide to buy nacho cheese flavor if I wish to get it. What is the limit too? Can i get a certain amount of somethin per month? Without prices how does one determine what one person can get? Who makes the products and where does innovation come from?

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would you like a vehicle?

*ferrari please

 

would you like a house?

*3 please, whitehouse quality, buckingham palace quality, and neverlandstyleeee

 

would you like nice clothes?

*etc etc. etc.

of course, *demanding* things (without money) is easy. allocating resources for production, and doing the delivery is teh hard partz/

Where there is no property there is no justice; a proposition as certain as any demonstration in Euclid

Fools! not to see that what they madly desire would be a calamity to them as no hands but their own could bring

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sentiments such as this come up all the time and you know what?  there are so many valid refutations of communism that just completely destroy it.  that doesn't matter to progressives though.  when has truth ever mattered?

I've seen 12 year olds with no prior knowledge refute the labor theory of value.  it's the biggest joke in the history of the world.  it would be funny if it hadn't already killed 100 million people.

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Dear State:

Here is my list of things I want for Christmas from the collective warehouse this month...

some ponies (must be cute and also fast), cherry licorice, a bomb-proof SUV that's been "pimped", pay-per-view but not so much with the paying part, subscription to Thai Ladyboys Monthly, a jacuzzi with jets, one of those beds that will move my back up and down when I watch my shows, an IV in my arm one of those space food sets, and some adult  diapers so I can give "according to my ability."  I want a bowling alley in my house!

Thanks ahead of time.

Your Comrade, John Ess

 

 

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Solomon:

Ask her what would motivate people to work hard when everything is given them by the state anyway, or conversely what would motivate them to work when they can't keep what they produce.

Of course, one can't realistically expect that to lead anywhere, seeing as socialists don't believe in human action.

 

I had a very similar conversation with someone the other day. It eventually degenerated to the point where he admitted that people would have to be forced to work and should be killed if they refuse. He actually said that this would be a better world than one in which people peacefully coexist with each other. I had to walk away because I wanted to rip his head off...

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rather than ripping his head off you could maybe insist that he do yard work for you (or get his head ripped off for refusing.)

get socialists to work for you !

Where there is no property there is no justice; a proposition as certain as any demonstration in Euclid

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gocrew replied on Sun, Mar 22 2009 7:30 PM

Something similar to surveys was done during WW I.  Army generals were ordering from their wish lists and delivery was backed up and the transportation system was clogged up, so the government decided to allow the generals to expedite orders for emergencies.

I prefer to keep you in suspense about what happened next.

Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under - Mencken

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