Conza88: Individualist:Will all people groups join in a world federation? What about Montana and Alaska? There's a clause in the Constitution which allows for treaties to become the supreme law of the land. Essentially, there will be people who won't want to. A growing number in my opinion due to the Liberty movement.
Individualist:Will all people groups join in a world federation? What about Montana and Alaska?
There's a clause in the Constitution which allows for treaties to become the supreme law of the land.
Essentially, there will be people who won't want to. A growing number in my opinion due to the Liberty movement.
Individualist: pablofrancisco: I believe the only way a society that upholds the NAP principle will ever truly come into existence is if the rulers have something to be afraid of. That is only going to happen when a PDA is strong enough to defend its members against state coercion. Can a powerful PDA come even come into being on land controlled by a state?
pablofrancisco: I believe the only way a society that upholds the NAP principle will ever truly come into existence is if the rulers have something to be afraid of. That is only going to happen when a PDA is strong enough to defend its members against state coercion.
I believe the only way a society that upholds the NAP principle will ever truly come into existence is if the rulers have something to be afraid of. That is only going to happen when a PDA is strong enough to defend its members against state coercion.
Sure they can. Just not in the same form as you might be thinking.
Individualist: Conza88: Individualist:Will all people groups join in a world federation? What about Montana and Alaska? There's a clause in the Constitution which allows for treaties to become the supreme law of the land. Essentially, there will be people who won't want to. A growing number in my opinion due to the Liberty movement. Will a global government even come into being unless nation-states are weakened? If nation-states are weakened, won't secession be more viable than it is now? Might these smaller states be more likely to cede land to anarchists?
Lots of speculation, but I dont think a global government would come into existence except through strong arming by states.
pablofrancisco: Individualist: Conza88: Individualist:Will all people groups join in a world federation? What about Montana and Alaska? There's a clause in the Constitution which allows for treaties to become the supreme law of the land. Essentially, there will be people who won't want to. A growing number in my opinion due to the Liberty movement. Will a global government even come into being unless nation-states are weakened? If nation-states are weakened, won't secession be more viable than it is now? Might these smaller states be more likely to cede land to anarchists? Lots of speculation, but I dont think a global government would come into existence except through strong arming by states.
Why isn't global government here now? Political, economic, military, and health world personnel coordinate efforts on the global scale right now. I made a list for reference to point this out. Global government is here. The meetings are not explicitly active as Nation-States, but they meet come back to their individual Nation-States and implement. Coordination is happening: G20 decisions, World Bankers meeting, IMF, World Bank, WHO, Federal Reserve and all ties to U.S. dollar as world reserve, increased global governance on global trade/globalization, and decisions, ex. of decisions global regulatory of SEC is now activated, central banks interest rates go up and down in coordination, global effort on Swine flue, NATO in Afghanistan, etc...)
Individualist:I would very much like to see an anarchist society in my lifetime, but what are the prospects of freedom in our time?
Nill
Individualist:How long do you predict it will be till there is an anarchist society?
However long it takes to invent something that will give it to us (a replicator for example).
Individualist:I think that will be an easier feat than a minarchist society. Agree?
No, I think they are both just as difficult.
Individualist:Also, what do you think the prospects of secession are?
At most, I think only 5% of the adult population would need to stop cooperating to have real change.
wilderness:Coordination is happening: G20 decisions, World Bankers meeting, IMF, World Bank, WHO, Federal Reserve and all ties to U.S. dollar as world reserve, increased global governance on global trade/globalization, and decisions, ex. of decisions global regulatory of SEC is now activated, central banks interest rates go up and down in coordination, global effort on Swine flue, NATO in Afghanistan, etc...
And that is just the stuff we see. That's what they tell us about. We can be darn sure there is a lot more collaboration on sensitive topics...
liberty student: wilderness:Coordination is happening: G20 decisions, World Bankers meeting, IMF, World Bank, WHO, Federal Reserve and all ties to U.S. dollar as world reserve, increased global governance on global trade/globalization, and decisions, ex. of decisions global regulatory of SEC is now activated, central banks interest rates go up and down in coordination, global effort on Swine flue, NATO in Afghanistan, etc... And that is just the stuff we see. That's what they tell us about. We can be darn sure there is a lot more collaboration on sensitive topics...
Yeap. I know they coordinate outside of meetings too. Maybe a phone call. Maybe somebody passes the word somehow or they follow a plan. But there was no explicit meeting on going after supposed monopolies last week, but Europe and the U.S. both came out at the same time and went after what they are calling Anti-Trust breakers. Intel in Europe and Google in U.S. to name some that came up. Fiat is the most clear example I'm seeing of a convergence right now. This car company is going to get U.S. government money, Italian government money, and is currently trying to get German government money. Fiat holds a 3-4% GDP of Italy. The owner who recently died in 2003 was considered the 'king of Italy'. Another billion dollar business man who is also I believe Prime Minister in Italy currently is called 'the king of Italy'. Monarchy excludes the people. There's a bunch of wheeling and dealing going on without the law being followed. First of all Obama shouldn't even say anything about Chrysler and Fiat and to announce a plan that includes U.S. tax dollars going to Fiat before a Federal Judge looks over the bankruptcy case. But they have this stuff planned out way ahead of time.
Heck, I know people that track the law show how the legal system via Treaties that lead back to the Vatican and the Pope. I don't know everything going on in this scenario, but let people keep an eye on what for some reason is a very powerful institution, the Vatican being. Millions of people listen to the pope. But I'm sure I'm a nut for even thinking the Vatican could ever possibly have strength even though they were once an Empire and had explicit power in Europe up until the Protestant Reformation in England, but even that didn't end the Vaticans influence. Why were so many Americans afraid of JFK being Catholic? I think American's tend to be cautious about Church and State relations. Cause Catholic's listen to the pope and he is their Divine Leader in spiritual lineage back to Paul. Maybe world leaders go and visit the pope often cause they are paying tribute to an old man and humoring him. But that's a whole other story in itself and I'm sure I might be labeled a nut when I mumble about the pope here.
And yes, this thread might be getting de-railed.