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Where do people get the idea that it is honorable to fight in a war?

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SilentXtarian posted on Mon, Jul 20 2009 1:11 PM

As I've mentioned before in another thread I've been studying history for a while now.  I can't figure out where people get this idea that it is honorable to fight in a war.  In fact I've pretty my view on war is almost completely a pacifist one.  I do not feel that wars of aggression need to be fought.  Nations need not be invaded by one another.  Wars of imperialist conquest are just simply wrong and there are better methods of uniting a region rather than just war.  I feel that the only wars that are really justified in history are revolutionary wars, or, rebellions.  I don't think even those need to happen.  I feel that revolutionary wars happen only because an imperial power is somewhere they aren't supposed to be, so, they pay the consequences.  Other than that- wars are just wrong- unless you love fighting for the state or being some political pawn out there.  I'd like to get some libertarian views on this.  I don't know why people feel that it is honorable to fightin a war.  Unless you really liked empire building I don't see what you would find honorable in fighting a war.

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why am i not suprised at the poor standard of argumentation provided by an education commie....

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wilderness:
Are we side tracking from the main crux of what seemed to be a disagreement?

No this was what I was talking about the entire time.... LOL....

wilderness:
 My only initial point was that liberty is within each person.

This was why I switched to freedom, I should have noted such....

wilderness:
I'm headed that way.  I've been slowly trying to walk away.Smile

This is why I can see all of my property, short 30 sqft, from within my home...

good we agree.  I figured it was semantics. Smile

also noting your last comment... tis why I try to keep contact with my neighbors back on this private road of ours in which we own and the county has nothing to do with.  We have a little community of trust worthy people here and we really love the idea that we mind our own business.  We really keep to ourselves and look the other way.

 

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wilderness:
We have a little community of trust worthy people here and we really love the idea that we mind our own business.

<silly coment tag> collectivist! what of untrustworthy peoples rights? and nosey individuals? what of their rights?  Stick out tongue </silly coment tag> 

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nirgrahamUK:

wilderness:
We have a little community of trust worthy people here and we really love the idea that we mind our own business.

<silly coment tag> collectivist! what of untrustworthy peoples rights? and nosey individuals? what of their rights?  Stick out tongue </silly coment tag> 

lolBig Smile

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GilesStratton:
Well, Bawaa, here's my proof, you don't even have the balls to ban me for a few days. Let alone "fight the state".
I'm trying to give you every opportunity to avoid that outcome. It's not something I do lightly.

 

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Knight_of_BAAWA:

It's not something I do lightly.

 

Sure about that?

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we could take turns to do it lightly. i could do it this time... 

I have unbanned Giles in the past... it only seems fair somehow that if i were to.....

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GilesStratton:
Sure about that?
Quite.

 

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we could take turns to do it lightly. i could do it this time... 

I have unbanned Giles in the past... it only seems fair somehow that if i were to.....

I'll repeat what I said to Bawaa, if you want to, go for it. Prove me wrong about libertarians not having any balls.

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nirgrahamUK:

we could take turns to do it lightly. i could do it this time... 

I have unbanned Giles in the past... it only seems fair somehow that if i were to.....

I'll repeat what I said to Bawaa, if you want to, go for it. Prove me wrong about libertarians not having any balls.

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wilderness:
also noting your last comment... tis why I try to keep contact with my neighbors back on this private road of ours in which we own and the county has nothing to do with.  We have a little community of trust worthy people here and we really love the idea that we mind our own business.  We really keep to ourselves and look the other way.

I live in a small community where I am the only gun owner, and everyone knows it....

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are you positively asking me to ban you?

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nirgrahamUK:
are you positively asking me to ban you?

I think he is looking for something to cry about on Stormfront....

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Byzantine:
I'm simply pointing out that some people will gladly trade their personal liberty for a place to eat and sleep.

Only if communists are right....

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