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How does the Free-Market protect environmental waste?

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matthewloewen posted on Tue, Oct 25 2011 5:00 PM

In terms of externalities, how can the free market stop a company from exploiting its workers overseas, or dumping toxic waste into a river? In Alberta we have a huge problem with the tar sands. Vast sections of that province have been stripped, water dirtied etc, with little effort on part of the companies working there to clean up their mess. Yet, as a consumer, I should stand up against this. But I don't, and I am a person who knows about this problem. Is that not a failure in the free market?

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The essence of Austrian Economics is human action, when thinking of these sorts of things you can simply ask yourself "who benefits and gains from this issue? How would each party act without a government?" The fact that most people see these things as a problem, but believe that democracy can solve the problem means that according to their own assumptions the majority of people have to want something, so why would they not act to correct it in the free society?

According to the statist mindset it would seem that there was only one mode of collective action: Actions through government. As if charities and a million other organisations didn't exist even with the overwhelming majority of collective efforts being funnelled towards the manipulation of the government apparatus. Get rid of government and you will see an increase in the social demand to solve problems, leading to an increase in the amount of social entrepreneurship dedicated to solving these problems.

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Answered (Not Verified) Peter replied on Mon, Jul 30 2012 5:59 AM
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To stop industrial pollution there is need of strict laws.

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What makes you think pollution is better kept in check by the State (and "strict" laws) than by strict respect for property rights?

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I've been mulling over this, this week, and I think my answer would be a little simpler than the above.

Laws are commodities, just like toothbrushes.  They are created when the market for them exists.  You get environmental laws when the public is demanding environmental law, and not before.

Thus, the free market (via customer choice, private companies which research the habits of other companies and offer certification, investigative reporting, etc) can  just as easily do the same thing and naturally WOULD, at exactly the time that the public was demanding change.

Look at the car manufacturers.  They aren't doing major market research for nothing.  They know, and implement developments that will affect their products and advertising, long before the laws get enacted.  It's due to the market demand first and foremost.

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What definition of "a law" are you using?

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Wheylous had the best (funniest) responses in this thread by far!

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Peter replied on Tue, Oct 23 2012 6:18 AM

I want to say that there should be a law to stop waste disposal in rivers, agricultural land, places near by socities to provide a sustainable environment for living being.

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