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how idealogicly commited were citizens of the communist world

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garegin Posted: Sun, Aug 16 2009 5:20 PM

this post was inspired by the fact that the chinese communist party is a naked emperor. this lead me to think whether people in ussr or eastern block really believed in marxism-leninism? i mean lot of europeans are basicly state-socialists who hate the rich. from my the parents (my family is from armenia) i take it that the people were basicly utopian socialists who were hopeful for its coming but didnt really understand "historical materialism" ,if you will.

anyways this is not a debate of the ideology but a historical question

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garegin replied on Sun, Aug 16 2009 9:02 PM

by asking a couple of people around who lived in soviet union i am getting the same impression when i talk to 15 yr old chomskyites. money, bad, decedance, coca cola. basicly the people who did believe in socialism were utopian with no grasp of political economy.

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garegin replied on Sun, Aug 16 2009 10:44 PM

huh, this makes me the only soviet kid here. better invent a time machine and visit some state owned barbershops

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Was born in CCCP, moved with my parents over here when I was 3. Don't personally know much about how it was, though we moved to the USA because it is better.

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garegin replied on Sun, Aug 16 2009 10:51 PM

what nationality are you

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scineram replied on Mon, Aug 17 2009 12:09 PM

This committed.

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scineram:
This committed.

Is that an obama public speech? jk.

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Its the fall of the Berlin Wall.

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Natalie replied on Wed, Aug 19 2009 11:50 AM

From what I remember of the 1980s, no one really believed in the socialism anymore since the reality of life in the USSR was so blatantly different from the official version. Of course now many Russians are disappointed in the market reforms (as if there's really a free market in Russia, it's been hijacked by the plutocrats) and are nostalgic over the Soviet period.

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