What is the Austrian School's position on land rights with respect to the Native American peoples?
Byzantine: Daniel:I have the following question for you: Should slaves receive reparations? Yes, but the only logical form they can take are as damages in tort for false imprisonment.
Daniel:I have the following question for you: Should slaves receive reparations?
Yes, but the only logical form they can take are as damages in tort for false imprisonment.
Next question: if the slaves didn't receive their damages, then they die, should their descendants inherite those damages?
To paraphrase Marc Faber: We're all doomed, but that doesn't mean that we can't make money in the process. Rabbi Lapin: "Let's make bricks!" Stephan Kinsella: "Say you and I both want to make a German chocolate cake."
sicsempertyrannis:No, in fact they had homesteaded very little of it - but this wont stop some libertarians from telling you that whitey needs to move back to the old world to satisfy the ridiculous Blockian notion of 'justice'.
Complete strawman, as others have pointed out.
sicsempertyrannis:I didnt listen to the talk
And therein lies your problem.
Conza88: And therein lies your problem.
Don't need to waste my time, since I know the gist of his argument. Sure, I used a strawman to make my point but the OP contained a question based around a 'do libertarians think...' strawman. Still doesnt change the fact that Indians didnt homestead much of anything.
Daniel: Next question: if the slaves didn't receive their damages, then they die, should their descendants inherite those damages?
No, for the same reason that a credit card company shouldnt be able to go after a deceased father's son for an unpaid credit card bill that the father racked up.
sicsempertyrannis: Conza88: And therein lies your problem. Don't need to waste my time, since I know the gist of his argument. Sure, I used a strawman to make my point but the OP contained a question based around a 'do libertarians think...' strawman. Still doesnt change the fact that Indians didnt homestead much of anything.
Who says they did? Prove it.
And in that sense, I mean it both ways. You prove who says so, as would the claimants - have to prove, through land titles etc that it was legitimately owned by them (homesteaded) & stolen.
Block states in the audio, which you haven't listened to, that there would be hardly any cases or proof.
sicsempertyrannis: Daniel: Next question: if the slaves didn't receive their damages, then they die, should their descendants inherite those damages? No, for the same reason that a credit card company shouldnt be able to go after a deceased father's son for an unpaid credit card bill.
No, for the same reason that a credit card company shouldnt be able to go after a deceased father's son for an unpaid credit card bill.
Should there be any inheritance at all?
Conza88: Block states in the audio, which you haven't listened to, that there would be hardly any cases or proof.
OK, so he elaborates a little bit. Fine, tomorrow I will give it a listen, but I still disagree with inherited debts and that is the crux of my bone with his theory.
Daniel: Should there be any inheritance at all?
If done within a legal will, yes.
What is his argument, according to you?
That debts (specifically: unpaid wages for labor) can be inherited to a descendant who never committed the offense itself.
February 17 - 1600 - Giordano Bruno is burnt alive by the catholic church. Aquinas : "much more reason is there for heretics, as soon as they are convicted of heresy, to be not only excommunicated but even put to death."
sicsempertyrannis: Daniel: Should there be any inheritance at all? If done within a legal will, yes.
So who does the property go to if there is no legal will?
sicsempertyrannis: What is his argument, according to you? That debts (specifically: unpaid wages for labor) can be inherited to a descendant who never committed the offense itself.
Debts are offenses?
Juan:I just browsed one of Block's Alston's paper and the argument is that slaves homesteaded the land and so the descendants of the slave owners have no legitimate title to it.
Just out of curiosity, whats your take on that theory?
Daniel: So who does the property go to if there is no legal will?
A private court should make that determination. More than likely family members or close friends.
Dont you think they are?
sicsempertyrannis: Ok to clarify he has written several pieces about reparations/land reform. Those are what I was referring to as silly. I didnt listen to the talk because I dont have to; I already know what his position is. Basically, since my great-great-great-great grandfather owned about 25 slaves - fast forward to today - me, who has never owned a slave, now owes their descendants (who were never slaves themselves) money. I dont think so.
Ok to clarify he has written several pieces about reparations/land reform. Those are what I was referring to as silly. I didnt listen to the talk because I dont have to; I already know what his position is. Basically, since my great-great-great-great grandfather owned about 25 slaves - fast forward to today - me, who has never owned a slave, now owes their descendants (who were never slaves themselves) money. I dont think so.
I think you should read/listen to more Block.