Just out of curiosity, I was wondering what kind of cologne Ludwig von Mises would have worn. I find it hard to believe that a person of his stature and refinement wouldn't have worn a fragrance, so I am trying to figure out what it possibly could have been. I also wonder if he switched fragrances when he moved to Switzerland and the United States. Is this information known, or was very little known of his personal life. Also, since we're on this subject, does anyone know what Murray Rothbard wore? How about other Austrians (Menger, Böhm-Bawerk, etc)?
Oh, and feel free to turn this into a cologne discussion thread (what do you wear?).
I dont feel comfortable with colognes or perfurme and Im quite satisfied with my skin, so I dont wear any. But Im very serious about my deodorant, a good one must smell nice but not strong, last for long and not be sticky.
Do I smell a new possible item at the Mises store?
'Mises cologne, waft in the smell of lassiez-faire liberalism. Buy yours today'
Should be like a nice gentlemen musk smell. Like Sex Panther cologne, '60% of the time, works every time'
'Men do not change, they unmask themselves' - Germaine de Stael
Laughing Man: Do I smell a new possible item at the Mises store? 'Mises cologne, waft in the smell of lassiez-faire liberalism. Buy yours today'
Well, there's always L'anarchiste. Definitely going to pick that one up someday.
Eau de toilette de L'anarchiste. C'est magnifique!
Translation: Toilet water of the anarchist. It is magnificent.
About cologne, I only own two different bottles. One of them is Versace Pour Homme, which I wear at night, and the other one is a Burberry (maybe "weekend", I don't remember the name) that I tend to wear during the day or when the event is less formal than what I would wear the Versace for.
As for myself, I own a...few...bottles but there are two that I enjoy the most and earn the most time in my rotation. My every day, all purpose scent is Rive Gauche pour Homme by Yves Saint Laurent. It's an absolutely fantastic fragrance that evokes that clean, barbershop smell and makes me feel like a well groomed intellectual. It's really enjoyable to wear while reading a massive economics treatise like Human Action. For more formal occasions The Third Man by Caron is what I swear by.
phrizek:It's an absolutely fantastic fragrance that evokes that clean, barbershop smell and makes me feel like a well groomed intellectual. It's really enjoyable to wear while reading a massive economics treatise like Human Action.
Have you tried writing that piece down and trying to send it in for publication at the cologne corporation?
hmm, did men of the old word (pre WW I) wear cologne? I sort of doubt it.
I've never thought much about this question, but I suppose that I think of cologne as a high school thing.
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jtucker: hmm, did men of the old word (pre WW I) wear cologne? I sort of doubt it. I've never thought much about this question, but I suppose that I think of cologne as a high school thing.
I must concur, I personally have a hard time imagining someone from that time period, especially a Central European gentleman, wearing cologne.
Abstract liberty, like other mere abstractions, is not to be found.
- Edmund Burke
I'm sure Bastiat and Say wore some instead of taking baths.
Though, I've not read anywhere that Mises was influenced by this aspect of their work.
laminustacitus: jtucker: hmm, did men of the old word (pre WW I) wear cologne? I sort of doubt it. I've never thought much about this question, but I suppose that I think of cologne as a high school thing. I must concur, I personally have a hard time imagining someone from that time period, especially a Central European gentleman, wearing cologne.
why?
laminustacitus: I must concur, I personally have a hard time imagining someone from that time period, especially a Central European gentleman, wearing cologne.
http://www.fragrancewholesale.com/somhisoncol.html
The creator of the first Cologne was Gian Paolo Feminis who arrived at his invention in 1709 - "Aqua Admirabilis". It is recorded that Napoleon Bonaparte used eight quarts of violet cologne every month.
It actually seems as if only the "gentlemen" (wealthy) were the ones who wore cologne until mass production began (http://www.scentiments.com/Home/history-of-perfume.aspx):
The biggest of all technological advances was the ability to create synthetic ingredients to substitute natural perfume ingredients that were hard to find or very expensive, bringing perfume and cologne prices down and making it accessible to the masses. Perfume was no longer a luxury for the wealthy.
Jonathan M. F. Catalán: laminustacitus: I must concur, I personally have a hard time imagining someone from that time period, especially a Central European gentleman, wearing cologne. http://www.fragrancewholesale.com/somhisoncol.html The creator of the first Cologne was Gian Paolo Feminis who arrived at his invention in 1709 - "Aqua Admirabilis". It is recorded that Napoleon Bonaparte used eight quarts of violet cologne every month. It actually seems as if only the "gentlemen" (wealthy) were the ones who wore cologne until mass production began (http://www.scentiments.com/Home/history-of-perfume.aspx): The biggest of all technological advances was the ability to create synthetic ingredients to substitute natural perfume ingredients that were hard to find or very expensive, bringing perfume and cologne prices down and making it accessible to the masses. Perfume was no longer a luxury for the wealthy.
Indeed, cologne (like all other luxury goods) began as an item for the wealthy. I highly doubt that a Viennese gentleman, in those days, would not wear a cologne. It's only recently (70s-80s) with the advent of cheap fragrances (due to improved production techniques) that they have become associated with lascivious teenagers.
I have never considered this at all before. What an absurd question!
How fun! :)
I don't know about historical accuracey, but if I imagined that Mises had a fragrance I think it would be something heavy. I think that because he looked like a stout guy and from his writing he seems like a very serious minded person. But it was probably also a little flowery, since (for some reason or another) that strikes me as the style of a Continental gentleman. Gucci by Gucci maybe?
By comparison, I think Keynes' cologne would be less heavy. I think so because he was pretty tall and thin and from his writing he seems like a pretty fun guy since it moves along at a more rapid clip and he can turn a good phase (General Theory being something of an exception, but it has its moments). It would probably also have to British and somewhat woody (Cambridge has very green scenery). Burberry London, maybe?
Ambition is a dream with a V8 engine - Elvis Presley
jtucker:I've never thought much about this question, but I suppose that I think of cologne as a high school thing.
Gotta smell nice for the ladies.
wilderness: laminustacitus: jtucker: hmm, did men of the old word (pre WW I) wear cologne? I sort of doubt it. I've never thought much about this question, but I suppose that I think of cologne as a high school thing. I must concur, I personally have a hard time imagining someone from that time period, especially a Central European gentleman, wearing cologne. why?
It doesn't fit my paradigm of what a gentleman ought to be. But, that is nevertheless an opinion, and not a fact.
The J. Peterman Company, Owner's Manuel No. 11, Summer 1990:
Circles of aficionados still to this day explore economist Ludwig von Mises's Human Action for elements that may provide an even deeper inspection into the monumental work. With its careful structuring and innumerable allusions to mythology and other subtleties of olden influence, it is regarded as more than an explicit treatise on economics. Some go as far as musing that Mises dropped hints to his own intimate intrigues. For instance, it is thought that certain passages suggest that he delighted in the relish of bread more than that of confectionery. One selection has steered visitors of Austria to knead earth into their skin in the conviction that it was the aroma of den Schmutz von Österreich which Mises had a penchant to issue from his self.
Ludwig von Mises:There are people who experience the unio mystica and place this experience above everything else, and there are men who are convinced that they hear the voice of the bIood and smell with heart and soul the unique scent of the cherished soil of their country. The mystical experience and the ecstatic rapture are facts which psychology must consider real, like any other psychical phenomenon.
Ah..J. Peterman. It reminds me of my journeys into the deep heart of the Burma with my guide Willahobo. Ah yes that scrappy fellow and I found the treasure of King Binnya Dala.