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Hairnet posted on Mon, Jan 25 2010 3:45 PM

   So today iny my freshman year American Government class, we read an exerpt from this book called the indian givers. I think the thesis of this book is that the United States is awesome because of native americans.  I am sure there may be a little truth to that. I wanted to ask what people here thought about some of the various native american societies.

   Was the iroqouis confederacy an example of Anarcho-Communism?

   The exerpt seemed to imply that and even managed to mention various anarchist "thinkers" . The article made their society sound like it was the best ever. People had personal freedom, there was no racism, sexism, or slavery. The exerpt also mentioned that many native american tribes did not have property.

   Is this true, or is this just leftists bastardizing the history of native americans?

   Any good libertarian-perspective papers on native american societies?

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Marko replied on Tue, Jan 26 2010 6:57 AM

fakename:

I'm pretty sure (not certain) that the indians didn't hunt buffalo before they had guns supplied by the europeans.

Sure they did.

 

And it was the horse that really raised their standard of living, by the time they got guns in large numbers the herds were already close to being exterminated.

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sicsempertyrannis:

Most American Indian tribes had no concept of private property.  Without that, it would be difficult to characterize most of them anything close to being 'ancap'.

Can you provide us with some evidence for this assertion? I am genuinely interesting in finding out if this is true.

I will see if I can dig one up, but even the more 'advanced' Indian tribes the closest they came to property rights (IIRC - this is American History in college from about 8 years ago speaking) had more in common with state or common property;  this is our tribes, this is your tribes.  Only with the arrival of Europeons did Indians slowly begin to adopt truly private property (and in some cases, they were forced to do so).

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sicsempertyrannis:

Most American Indian tribes had no concept of private property.  Without that, it would be difficult to characterize most of them anything close to being 'ancap'.

Where did you get this idea?

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All very interesting. Well, I think there needs to be more professional investigation into other cultures in general.  Contemprorary China and Native Americans is what I am requesting. So if anyone didn't have any ideas on what to research, there you go... (I will buy a book about either). 

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