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Nationwide Full Reserve law and no Central Bank vs. no regulations at all

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No2statism posted on Tue, Feb 2 2010 4:00 PM

Which would result in less depressions and recessions?

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No2statism:

Daniel Muffinburg:

To answer your question, should I assume that the law would actually prevent banks from practicing FRB?

Yes:)

Then yes. But that is an unrealistic assumption. 

To paraphrase Marc Faber: We're all doomed, but that doesn't mean that we can't make money in the process.
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The Late Andrew Ryan:

I'd say that the first would probably result in the fewest recessions. The second would probably be more healthy however.

 

How come?

The first is helping to cut off part of what starts recessions to begin with, the second is provided by emergent market order.

In the short run the first would work the best because it is an imitation of what (I believe) the market would arrive at. The second however would be the transition from state regulated to market regulated which is not a pleasant transition.

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The latter. The former would just retard progress.

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To answer your question, should I assume that the law would actually prevent banks from practicing FRB?

To paraphrase Marc Faber: We're all doomed, but that doesn't mean that we can't make money in the process.
Rabbi Lapin: "Let's make bricks!"
Stephan Kinsella: "Say you and I both want to make a German chocolate cake."

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I'd say that the first would probably result in the fewest recessions. The second would probably be more healthy however.

"Lo! I am weary of my wisdom, like the bee that hath gathered too much honey; I need hands outstretched to take it." -Thus Spake Zarathustra
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Daniel Muffinburg:

To answer your question, should I assume that the law would actually prevent banks from practicing FRB?

Yes:)

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I'd say that the first would probably result in the fewest recessions. The second would probably be more healthy however.

How come?

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No2statism:

Daniel Muffinburg:

To answer your question, should I assume that the law would actually prevent banks from practicing FRB?

Yes:)

Then yes. But that is an unrealistic assumption. 

To paraphrase Marc Faber: We're all doomed, but that doesn't mean that we can't make money in the process.
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No2statism:

The Late Andrew Ryan:

I'd say that the first would probably result in the fewest recessions. The second would probably be more healthy however.

 

How come?

The first is helping to cut off part of what starts recessions to begin with, the second is provided by emergent market order.

In the short run the first would work the best because it is an imitation of what (I believe) the market would arrive at. The second however would be the transition from state regulated to market regulated which is not a pleasant transition.

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No2statism:

Which would result in less depressions and recessions?

I don't think we can know... but it really doesn't matter... we still know that the right solution is to permit the market to regulate itself, not legislate one-size-fits-all solutions.

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The latter. The former would just retard progress.

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scineram:

The latter. The former would just retard progress.

How would the former retard progress?

Thanks for answering:)

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Increasing interest rates by reducing the efficiency of the mechanism channeling saving into investment, hence depressing investment.

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DD5 replied on Thu, Feb 4 2010 11:12 AM

No2statism:

Which would result in less depressions and recessions?

The question itself is grounded on a false dichotomy.  At least according to all those that advocate full reserves.

You are wrongly presuming that a full reserve requirement amounts to a special banking regulation.  On the contrary, it is the removal of a special privilege granted to banks that no other business enjoys.  I argued this in the other thread by pointing to the fact that banking is the only business where the time structure of their assets are always longer then its liabilities.   This violation is a direct result of the privilege granted by the State to operate with fractional reserves.  When there was no such privilege in the past, banks simply committed fraud according to the traditional laws of that time. 

 

The more appropriate dichotomy should be:

Free banking subject to the same legal principles as any other business vs.  Free banking with the privilege to operate with fractional reserves.

 

 

 

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DD5 replied on Thu, Feb 4 2010 11:31 AM

scineram:

Increasing interest rates by reducing the efficiency of the mechanism channeling saving into investment, hence depressing investment.

Keynesian  fallacy.

 

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Rothbardian fallacy.

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DD5 replied on Thu, Feb 4 2010 11:51 AM

scineram:

Rothbardian fallacy.

That hoarding is detrimental is a Keynesian fallacy.  This is one fallacy that has been debunked over and over again by Austrians.  A fallacy which you are trying to bring back to life.

 

Here is Mises and [not Rothbard]:

 

Whenever an individual devotes a sum of money to saving

instead of spending it for consumption, the process of saving

agrees perfectly with the process of capital accumulation and

investment. It does not matter whether the individual saver

does or does not increase his cash holding. The act of saving

always has its counterpart in a supply of goods produced and

not consumed, of goods available for further production

activities. A man’s savings are always embodied in concrete

capital goods. . . . The effect of our saver’s saving, i.e., the surplus

of goods produced over goods consumed, does not disappear

on account of his hoarding. The prices of capital goods

do not rise to the height they would have attained in the

absence of such hoarding. But the fact that more capital goods

are available is not affected by the striving of a number of

people to increase their cash holdings. . . . The two

processes—increased cash holding of some people and

increased capital accumulation—take place side by side.

(Mises, Human Action, pp. 521–22)

 

 

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