According to IBN Live, The Vatican's "Monsignor Gianfranco Girotti, a close ally of the Pope and the head of the Apostolic Penitentiary," has issued news statements regarding official sins holding that "causing social injustice" and "polluting the environment, failing to recycle plastic bags, being obscenely wealthy, taking or dealing drugs" are considered sinful acts by the Church."
Being "obscenely rich" and causing "social injustice ?" The Church is being very ambiguous here. Whats obscene? The Church neither defines obscenity nor does it distinguish between becoming rich by "economic means" or by "political means." Also, the Austrian School has been very critical of egalitarian social justice beliefs.
Is the Church damaging its ability to be an institution that Catholic free-marketeers can believe in? What do you think about the "new" sins? Perhaps I've missed something that the Church announced. I'm an atheist but I don't think its appropriate to swoop down and critique religion on one of my rants on this kind of forum. Feedback. Thanks
"If we look at the black record of mass murder, exploitation, and tyranny levied on society by governments over the ages, we need not be loath to abandon the Leviathan State and ... try freedom." --Murray Rothbard
I've read that in the Telegraph and was profoundly shocked. It seems they have abandoned a very important tradition of the Church, namely the moral philosophy of Thonas Aquinas, who argued that an act can never be morally judged by it's results, because human beings cannot foretell the future. Only motivations and actions (methods) can be morally judged.
Here it seems they are judging results. That's a totat contradiction to the most important traditions. Before they only said don't wish this and this and don't do this and this. Now they seem to say don't do stuff that results in this and this, such as pollution, getting "too" rich or "social injustice". That's crazy...
And WTF is social injustice. That's just sort of a weasel word. Either it is injustice i.e. personal injustice, or not. Social injustice is something one cannot prove to be unjust but yet likes to condemn anyway.
They might be taking a moderate Singerian approach, saying that being "obscenely rich" demonstrates a failure to fulfill one's moral obligation to help those in desparate need when one would not lose anything of moral significance by doing so.
Statements like this which the Church has made are just one of the reasons why, I think, so many independent Catholics exist today. Thomas Aquinas did believe in will and not consequences, yet I think the Church has some history of condemning the wealthy. At the risk of being facetious, I would say that the Pope isn't bad off himself though. Doesn't he wear Prada?
I'm not sure if they were listing it as a new sin, but a newspaper here also mentioned tax evasion to be a sin. I don't consider that really an immoral thing, much less of a sin, but I wonder if there is religious basis for that. I think its a stretch to say that Jesus mean to be a sin when he said "to caesar what's of caesar". But what do you think?
I understand they list not helping someone in need as a sin, but evading taxes doesn't necessarly mean the person isn't going to use that money for charity purposes. Anyway, its basically saying that if you don't give to others what they ask from you, then you are in sin.
I would rather they'd focus on things like tax breaks for special interests, which distorce the field. And also other political actions like invading countries. You'd think these modern crusades would be more of a concern.
Equality before the law and material equality are not only different but are in conflict with each other; and we can achieve either one or the other, but not both at the same time. -- F. A. Hayek in The Constitution of Liberty
BlackSheep: I'm not sure if they were listing it as a new sin, but a newspaper here also mentioned tax evasion to be a sin. I don't consider that really an immoral thing, much less of a sin, but I wonder if there is religious basis for that. I think its a stretch to say that Jesus mean to be a sin when he said "to caesar what's of caesar". But what do you think?
Jesus never said that not paying taxes is a sin. He simply said what he needed to say to avoid being called a blasphemer by the Pharisees or an insurrectionist by the Romans. Note he also never says what, exactly, is Caesar's.
More than that - what if you have a scripturally sound moral objection to the activities for which the state will inevitably use your tax money?
I look forward to the day when the church (not only the catholic church, but the whole body of believers) stops acting like a government and starts acting the way it was meant to - as a family. "Social injustice?" Where did they find that in the Bible? Maybe they forgot about this verse:
2 Corinthians 9:7 - Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly OR UNDER COMPULSION, for God loves a cheerful giver.
Pro Christo et Libertate integre!
The OP is why I am no longer a Christian. It seems organized religion consists merely of leftist shills now. They should enthrone Al Gore as their god, and appoint someone like Peter Singer as the new Pope.
...and on top of this, I think I remember seeing the new Pope complaining in some way or another about green house gasses and global warming and some such nonsense. So I wonder that since pollution is a deadly sin, and the Church has bought into the global warming hoax, does that mean I sin every time I exhale CO2?
...seems like I'm dead either way...
Only if you're a right-libertarian