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Polylogicism and the Educational Establishment

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cognitivist Posted: Thu, Jun 10 2010 9:41 AM

Does the occurrence of colleges not requiring for all attending students a curriculum on the study of logic support the idea that colleges, or even the education establishment in general, are pro-polylogic?

Ethics is required in most establishments I have heard of. Why not logic?

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scineram replied on Thu, Jun 10 2010 7:36 PM

No.

Because it's so basic it's assumed to be known?

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nandnor replied on Fri, Jun 11 2010 4:45 AM

Not sure how it is not taught? We had mathematical logics in our first term

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Bank Run replied on Fri, Jun 11 2010 10:06 AM

I am not sure.... It could be Aristitolian method to teach logic first. Why not? Kids in elementary prison ought to be fed logic and debate for lords sake. Imagine children chiding their mongoloid parents on the use of double negation, or saying "what would a truth table tell us".

Too bad there is not logic 102,103, etc in community college. Same for ethics. I think all schools ought to teach epistemology. Do any of them? 

What's up with Business Ethics courses? They ought to give that class a different name, Business Conduct?

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Bank Run:

I am not sure.... It could be Aristitolian method to teach logic first. Why not? Kids in elementary prison ought to be fed logic and debate for lords sake. Imagine children chiding their mongoloid parents on the use of double negation, or saying "what would a truth table tell us".

Too bad there is not logic 102,103, etc in community college. Same for ethics. I think all schools ought to teach epistemology. Do any of them? 

What's up with Business Ethics courses? They ought to give that class a different name, Business Conduct?

Exactly. Why can't anarchists hijack the State and lead a movement to incorporate classes on the nature of logic and epistemology into public schools. It seems like a convenient way to expose the "war" between statism and anarchism (and the ethics surrounding it, really) by teaching these things early.

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Michael replied on Sat, Jun 12 2010 11:32 PM

The problem is that schools think they are teaching logic through mathematics. The only problem is that math logic does not teach to think in terms of language. Also, mathematics does not differentiate the concepts of deduction or induction. Math, as tought anyway, is only a way for students to follow steps based upon abstract principles that have no real meaning for them. No philosophical question can be answered from a quadratic formula unless there is real application for the formula.This application however, will require the knowledge of logic within the realm of language to understand the units involved.

Do schools promote multiple logics? the answer is yes and no. WIthin the hard sciences, its hard to escape their is one logic. In the soft sciences (esspecially politics) its much easier to make the case for multiple logics. However, math does not teach a person how inconsitancies work since all the variables are pre-defined and the steps to solve them are already given to the student. When language is thrown into the picture, there must be an understanding of definition of terms as well as an understanding as to how those terms interact through verb aggreement.  Logic, it is to be remembered, is not the science of seeking truth or falsehood, bu consistancy. However, it is the science of sciences since all sciences in the end must employ formal logical thinking in order to at least produce valid arguments. Without a valid arguement, there can be no truth.

However, although some can make the case for the abandonment of one logic in soft sciences, it is impossible for them to ever argue consistantly. Thus without formal logic, the soft science would be rendered useless since no aggreement can ever be reached in a world of polygoism.

 

Logic is the foundation of all sciences. To ignore learning formal logic only leaves us with a long string of educated guesses that may result in inconssitant ideas and belief structures. We would only attain consistant thought either through chance or genius without the knowledge that comes with learning logic.

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fakename replied on Sun, Jun 13 2010 1:10 AM

I agree with the above analysis, indeed, I'm not even sure philosophy majors are required to study logic anymore. I however had the good luck to study logic and I still do in my off-time.

In terms of the relationship between math and logic I also tend to agree. In my experience, people who are good at math are actually just as good at logic as any layman. I remember that students who could breeze through quadratics and conic sections would completely founder when presented with the task of proving a proposition of triangle congruence.

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Jesse replied on Sun, Jun 13 2010 3:54 AM

I'm a philosophy major at a California state school, and while logic is not a required class, it fulfills a requirement, and most philosophy majors end up taking it anyway. Moreover, the professors highly recommend to anyone considering grad school that they take some further upper-division logic courses.

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When it comes to logic in my college, I had to study on my own. Luckily I found "Elementary Lessons in Logic" and Thinking as a Science" here at the institute website. These books provide a good foundation in the study of logic and I found reading coplex books like Human Action way easier since applying the principles these books espouse.

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