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Argument with a Social Democrat

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My Buddy Posted: Wed, Jul 14 2010 6:22 PM

I am having a fun argument with a Social Democrat on the Total War Centre forums.

 

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=372559

 

(in case you are wondering, I am Snoopy, not Timothy Leary)

 

He keeps taking swipes at me with things that don't apply to me "Well you don't want to get rid of Social Security or Medicare so you must be in support of Free Healthcare". He also seems to enjoy justifying robbery.

 

Any comments, advice, etc are greatly appreciated.

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They will most likely attempt to create strawman arguments against your position, and perhaps even offer some positions for you that you don't even have.

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In the first post:

How is having universally guaranteed rights to things like healthcare, social security, and welfare as a citizen the same thing as being a slave? Because, I can assure you that no slave ever had such rights given to them.

...Didn't slaves get some kind of healthcare? Didn't they get shelter, food, clothing, security, etc? I don't like saying that taxation is slavery, but it is not as if the slave received nothing from his master. Some of his appropriated product was used to provide him with goods and services, as some of our appropriated wealth is used to provide us with insurance and welfare and 'public goods'.

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Some of his appropriated product was used to provide him with goods and services, as some of our appropriated wealth is used to provide us with insurance and welfare and 'public goods'.

Exactly. Slavery is kind of like a 100% tax where you're given a rationed amount of food, shelter, clothing, etc. from your 'provider'. That sounds like communism.

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Giant_Joe replied on Wed, Jul 14 2010 7:26 PM

In Ontario, I don't have a choice of health care provider. I don't get the quality of care I'd like to have. I can't start my own non-government approaved healthcare. Am I free? No.

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Raudsarw replied on Thu, Jul 15 2010 4:43 AM

Oh hi Snoopy, I'm Timothy Leary. :D

 

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