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Lagrange multiplier Posted: Sat, Sep 18 2010 10:55 AM

One more reason anarcho-capitalists are cooler than other anarchists: they dress so classy!

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One reason other anarchists are so much cooler than an-caps;

They aren't robots buying into the man's rat race and monkey suits.  See above ^^^

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Bert replied on Sat, Sep 18 2010 11:08 AM

I've thought about this before.  Smashing the state with style.

I had always been impressed by the fact that there are a surprising number of individuals who never use their minds if they can avoid it, and an equal number who do use their minds, but in an amazingly stupid way. - Carl Jung, Man and His Symbols
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Clothing style is irrelevant. Cleanliness and neatness however....

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Epicurus Ibn Kalhoun:
They aren't robots buying into the man's rat race and monkey suits.  See above ^^^

That's a pretty ignorant thing to say about Jeffrey.

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John Ess replied on Sat, Sep 18 2010 2:15 PM

John Zerzan is wearing pretty nice clothes by primitivist standards.

I thought he'd wear a lady gaga meat outfit or a bunch of beaver pelts.

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I also notice old VHS tapes on the table.  Is that considered primitive these days in our age of DVDs?

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I guess if I have to explain it was a joke, it wasn't that funny.

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^I laughed. Left anarchists don't conform to your suits, the corporations and stuff, man....

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Epicurus Ibn Kalhoun:
I guess if I have to explain it was a joke, it wasn't that funny.

It would be funny if you were an ancap.  But you're not so it isn't.

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Ha. I wear a collared shirt everyday and a suit at least once a month.  How could I be an anarchist that still votes if I didn't believe in using the system against itself?

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filc replied on Sun, Sep 19 2010 12:23 PM

I don't know your position on things Epicurus, and in light of our other recent conversations, I took your little joke literally. :p

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I guess that is to be expected.  To be honest I do respect someone who doesn't wear a suit, but Im not a discriminatory person.  I wouldn't negatively judge either for their fashion choices.

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filc replied on Sun, Sep 19 2010 12:41 PM

I love how the Austrian school is bringing back bowtie's into style.

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Epicurus Ibn Kalhoun:



One reason other anarchists are so much cooler than an-caps;

They aren't robots buying into the man's rat race and monkey suits.  See above ^^^




You've never heard of memetic warfare, have you?  The shell is the deception, the core is the substance.  

State or no state, people tend to take other's more seriously when they look like they at least care about hygeiene, which explains why even some anarcho-primtivists (strawmen aside) will go out of their way to look presentable.  

Not everyone already buys into the same Anarchist Lifestyle Inc. magazines everyone else does, so communicating beyond your own cliques might be useful.    

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Merlin replied on Mon, Sep 20 2010 1:36 AM

Straight ties are way cooler.

The Regression theorem is a memetic equivalent of the Theory of Evolution. To say that the former precludes the free emergence of fiat currencies makes no more sense that to hold that the latter precludes the natural emergence of multicellular organisms.
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--"Straight ties are way cooler."

this.  a grown man has no business wearing a bowtie.

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communeofone:

--"Straight ties are way cooler."

this.  a grown man has no business wearing a bowtie.

Did you lift that from Jon Stewart?  I heard him say that to mock Tucker Carlson.  It still makes no sense to me, as I don't generally see very many children wearing bow ties.

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There's not many people I see wearing bow ties period. Everyone where's regular ties. Not only is it classy, it's original.

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Nitroadict replied on Mon, Sep 20 2010 11:58 AM

Libertyandlife:

There's not many people I see wearing bow ties period. Everyone where's regular ties. Not only is it classy, it's original.


Pfft.  I see your Bowties with: 

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Bowties are cool.

End of story.

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--"Did you lift that from Jon Stewart?" 

no. 

back when i used to attend sunday school, my parents would dress me up in long pants, a dress shirt and a bowtie.  when i finally got old enough for the "grown up" service, my father bought me a straight tie and a jacket.  thus, finally ditching the bowtie was something of a rite of passage for me.  the same could be said for most of the guys in my old neighborhood.

--"It still makes no sense to me, as I don't generally see very many children wearing bow ties."

tbh, i don't see many children wearing bowties either, but when i do see someone wearing a bowtie, they're either a pre-teen boy or, in very rare cases, a black muslim.

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scineram replied on Mon, Sep 20 2010 7:59 PM

Grayson Lilburne:

communeofone:

--"Straight ties are way cooler."

this.  a grown man has no business wearing a bowtie.

Did you lift that from Jon Stewart?  I heard him say that to mock Tucker Carlson.  It still makes no sense to me, as I don't generally see very many children wearing bow ties.

 

Well.

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I'm actually trying to bring monocles and top hats back into style. 

'Men do not change, they unmask themselves' - Germaine de Stael

 

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@scineram

Isn't that character an old man who got bewitched into youth?

I personally prefer bowties over straight ties myself, as long as we're on the subject, but I find the former more suited to older men.

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Naevius replied on Sat, Sep 25 2010 3:23 PM

I'm actually trying to bring monocles and top hats back into style.

I sincerely hope you succeed. Me? I want tricorn hats to be back in style.

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Merlin replied on Sat, Sep 25 2010 4:30 PM

Well, wouldn’t Mises carnivals be the greatest thing ever or what?

The Regression theorem is a memetic equivalent of the Theory of Evolution. To say that the former precludes the free emergence of fiat currencies makes no more sense that to hold that the latter precludes the natural emergence of multicellular organisms.
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I'm honestly considering buying the bow tie on the mises store because of this thread (and the two reviews for it). I just don't have a suit (though I do have some classy clothes).

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Bert replied on Sat, Sep 25 2010 4:45 PM

I'm actually trying to bring monocles and top hats back into style.

Julius Evola wore a monocle.  Top hats are a 50/50.  Either you'll end up looking like "The Monopoly Guy" or Abe Lincoln.  Wearing both gives me this impression:

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justinx0r replied on Sat, Sep 25 2010 5:00 PM

The review for the bow tie's are hilarious. This one is my favorite:

 

 

	I really can't see how one would NOT want to wear this bow-tie. If you can't get laid with cool stud-wear, then you're doing it wrong. Try taking a bath, and remember us when you're exchanging your money for the water you used when the bill comes.

I went into a bar with this sleek mofo on my fine BAMF of a self; the ladies swarmed-- I don't blame them, I am constructed like a GOD. If you build it, they will come, you know. And oh boy, were they coming. From the plethora of ladies selling their goods, I discriminated until I picked one foxy lady (I didn't mind the opportunity cost of one less lady b, c, etc.).

You Miseians KNOW I lathered my girl in free market juices (statists, you'll understand when you enter our intellectual elite) and rocked her world harder than Atlas Shrugged rocked high school kids. I didn't take the tie off for a second. She wouldn't let me! We did everything from the Albert Jay Nockin Boots to the Lysander Spoon-her.

All because of the tie, man. Its the tie.
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Michelangelo:

@scineram

Isn't that character an old man who got bewitched into youth?

I personally prefer bowties over straight ties myself, as long as we're on the subject, but I find the former more suited to older men.

 

Detective Conan!

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I really ought to start Conan one of these days. Its been in my shelves for ages.

While on that subject, does anyone else find it odd that we have people using Sailor Moon characters, Shin-chan, Yumi, and even Kamina, but not one paying homage to Holo or one of the other capitalist-minded characters? We even have Andrew Ryan running around here somewhere, and if I recall several scrooges.

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William replied on Mon, Sep 27 2010 11:41 PM

One more reason to ditch the term "anarchist".  It even shows in manner of person there is a serious problem with using that term.

"I am not an ego along with other egos, but the sole ego: I am unique. Hence my wants too are unique, and my deeds; in short, everything about me is unique" Max Stirner
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Naevius replied on Tue, Sep 28 2010 1:01 AM

While on that subject, does anyone else find it odd that we have people using Sailor Moon characters, Shin-chan, Yumi, and even Kamina, but not one paying homage to Holo or one of the other capitalist-minded characters? We even have Andrew Ryan running around here somewhere, and if I recall several scrooges.

Haha, in my mind Kamina is the ultimate anarchist. After all, just listen to his theme song and how he's always "fighting the powah". Also, to quote the great man himself, "The mighty Kamina would rather die than do something he didn't want to do!"--classic voluntarism there.

Though the main reason he's my avatar is just because the man is so extremely awesome and I have quite the man-crush on him.

FIGHT THE POWER!

(I've actually never really encountered any explicitly capitalist-minded characters in anime. Who's this Holo you mentioned and how good is the show he's from?)

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Holo is a she actually, a harvest spirit whose helping out a travelling merchant (pictured left) in exchange for him taking her back to her ancestral home in the north. There's something of a recurring joke that the franchise (Spice & Wolf) draws people in with Holo, but keeps them with economics. To a good extent its true, with most of the story revolving around Lawrence's activities as a merchant. The only complaint I have is the treatment of money, but otherwise its quite fun.

-And, at least if you're an austrolibertarian, there is just something grand about seeing Holo defying the church and the various states they come across their journey. Off the top of my head, they get themselves into a smuggling operation when one state levies a large tax on gold, in another case they're involved with blackmailing another state thats debasing its money, and my personal favorite is the arc surrounding a bubble in rocks (in the vain of tulipmania).

And have you really never encountered capitalist-minded characters? There's quite a good number of them in my opinion. At least last I checked magical girls weren't defending us from all manner of demons because they were part of some government agency. Well- there is a certain magical girl who is on government pay, but I don't care for that statist.

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mwalsh replied on Tue, Sep 28 2010 7:26 PM

Don't forget- Dilbert is as well- his tie is even Black and Red stripes (finally realized this within the past week)

"To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the glass is half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be." - Unknown
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Naevius replied on Tue, Sep 28 2010 7:42 PM

@Michelangelo: Well, I'm sold. I'll be sure to watch it soon. Much obliged for the recommendation.

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Just started watching it. Very interesting. First anime I've ever watched.

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