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Can Statistics Replace The Price Mechanism?

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djussila posted on Sun, Sep 19 2010 10:24 AM

It's been said that prices are not need to manage resources because needs and wants can be managed by government better, through statistical gathering. What's wrong with this analysis? 

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scineram replied on Sun, Sep 19 2010 10:52 AM

What analysis? What statistics?

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djussila replied on Sun, Sep 19 2010 10:58 AM

What do you mean?

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Sieben replied on Sun, Sep 19 2010 11:08 AM

You survery americans and they want 300 million cars, 300 million houses, free education, free healthcare, and free hamboigas. What do?

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z1235 replied on Sun, Sep 19 2010 11:57 AM

Mr. Statistician, I want a free Ferrari 458 Italia.

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hugolp replied on Sun, Sep 19 2010 1:08 PM

Another Ferrari here. If you promise me one I will vote for you.

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Bert replied on Sun, Sep 19 2010 1:15 PM

From what time period will we use statistics to represent real-time prices?  Numbers by themselves don't mean anything if they don't represent the actual value attributed to them through exchange.  Can statistics, or by what you mean arbitrary numbers assigned to various goods with no real meaning that will not fluctuate with the demands of the market, replace the price mechanism?  No.  Here's a recent thread on what you're asking for.

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Mr. Statistician, I want a free Ferrari 458 Italia.

So little, Ghandi?  I want the world.

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Statistical gathering (by a coercive institution) cannot be done without changing the needs and wants it is measuring.

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Statistical gathering (by a coercive institution) cannot be done without changing the needs and wants it is measuring

Oh well.

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Statistics simply can't replace the role of price as a rationing (or economizing) mechanism.  How will one accurately weight opportunity cost?  What will replace profit and loss?  What will replace the uniformity-of-profit principle as what guides the distribution of capital in the market?  How will statistics flexibly respond to a change in preference?

For example, the government knows there is a demand for a postal service.  Yet, it has been unable to provide this service in an economical matter, and in the long-run this has brought about both an unprofitable government organization and one that does not meet the demand of its consumers (it really has no incentive to do so, either way).

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Vitor replied on Sun, Sep 19 2010 7:02 PM

You should ask soviet bureacrats about that.

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You should ask soviet bureacrats about that.

It's just never been done right.

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It's been said that prices are not need to manage resources because needs and wants can be managed by government better, through statistical gathering.

I heard different - I heard that needs and wants can be managed by government better, through my grilled cheese sandwich.

What's wrong with this analysis?

It's not one.

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djussila replied on Sun, Sep 19 2010 10:05 PM

Statistics can show trends, but don't necessarily show what people value the most. And this is very important when you consider two or more "trends". Where do you allocate the most resources the most efficiently when there are hundreds of statistical "trends"? 

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