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What NOT to say at libertarian outreach booths...

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Blueline976 Posted: Sat, Feb 12 2011 2:00 PM

I thought this was pretty funny:

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That's exactly what my first encounter with libertarianism was like.

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My first encounter with libertarianism was Harry Browne, then Murray Rothbard. To be honest, I was more interested in the social science angle than the politics.

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mwalsh replied on Sun, Feb 13 2011 9:09 AM

This type of thing is the opposite of what type of libertarianism was in my area, or at least the ones I was exposed to, especially in High School.  The ones I saw in my area said they were libertarians, and when asked why the only answer was b/c it would legalize marijuana, but everything else in the gov't was fine, and this turned me away from the libertarian party- b/c thats all it seemed like.  

 

I did change my understanding of what it was like, but I approached libertarianism through economics and the "engineer's syndrome" of trying to optimize everything, including the economy- which I found the most effecient way was not to touch it.

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Metus replied on Sun, Feb 13 2011 10:23 AM

Good lord, this is gold!

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Gipper replied on Sun, Feb 13 2011 10:31 AM

Typical liberal response to bear arms.

 

"I understand a hand gun, but TANKS?!? You're ok with people driving tanks down the street??!"

 

lmao

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rosstaylor replied on Sun, Feb 13 2011 12:32 PM

That was very good. Although it could have had a better ending.

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Metus replied on Sun, Feb 13 2011 12:53 PM

To make tis thread more productive we could give hints how an appropriate reaction could look like.

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BramElias replied on Sun, Feb 13 2011 3:39 PM

Well I stopped trying to explain to people that a libertarinan society could work, and rather point the flaws

in other peoples reasoning out. It just seem that people are a lot more open to it that way, and actually

often acknowledge that the goverment shouldn't be involved in X. On the other end, when you talk about

that the goverment shouldn't be involved in anything, they just think of a hobbesian world in which everyone

is trying to kill eachother in order to become rich.

 

Also, calling every ideology that you don't like socialist is the least helpful thing you can do. You have to

understand that non-libertarians have a different worldview than you, and also a different definition for words.

Just imagine you are a social-democrat who believes in both freedom and equality. You think that a society

like that would work as long as the goverment would intervene in the flaws of the market. You certainly don't

see yourself as a socialist. Now, when you are discussing a libertarian who keeps calling you a socialist that

after a few minutes you would stop listening and ignore the sob because he don't know what he's talking about.

 

On the other hand, it makes discussing a lot, lot harder.

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Social democrats, the ones that would use that label, do think of themselves as socialist.  Take a look at the member parties of Socialist International.  In Canada their representative is the New Democratic Party, whose platform is a mainstream marketized communist manifesto.  The common livestock such as the visitor portrayed in the video is a different creature.

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GooPC replied on Sun, Feb 13 2011 6:57 PM

"People want to license guns, some people want to license dogs, well no one is going to take away my dog’s gun!"

lol

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MaikU replied on Sun, Feb 13 2011 8:24 PM

Gipper:

Typical liberal response to bear arms.

 

"I understand a hand gun, but TANKS?!? You're ok with people driving tanks down the street??!"

 

lmao

 

LOL the funny thing is that those same liberals are ok with tanks only when the military is drving them (well, because they are only one who can afford it, probably, haha), but not a John from Maple St.

 

"People want to license guns, some people want to license dogs, well no one is going to take away my dog’s gun!"

Almost pissed in my pants :D

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"I understand a hand gun, but TANKS?!? You're ok with people driving tanks down the street??!"

I am fine with this. Weapons don't bother me. It's when they're in the hands of criminals like the police or marines that I get nervous.

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LeeO replied on Sun, Feb 13 2011 9:45 PM

Thank you - that was hilarious!

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Felipe replied on Mon, Feb 14 2011 6:08 AM

"I make love to my bazuka 3 times a day!"

LOL

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