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6 year old girl groped then drug tested by TSA

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chunter Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2011 1:29 PM

http://www.infowars.com/6-year-old-girl-groped-then-drug-tested-by-tsa/

 

Really sad what our government has turned into.

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That's what government always was.  It is just more naked and obvious now.

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Sensationalism at its best. 

By the way, I'm a little confused about this since the law requires that one be patted down by somebody of the same sex. So, if she wants to complain about he rights being violated she should learn about them, she was well within her rights to ask for a female to pat her down.

Americans are so anal about interpersonal contact its amazing. 

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Clayton replied on Tue, Apr 12 2011 2:40 PM

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Sensationalism at its best. 

By the way, I'm a little confused about this since the law requires that one be patted down by somebody of the same sex. So, if she wants to complain about he rights being violated she should learn about them, she was well within her rights to ask for a female to pat her down.

Americans are so anal about interpersonal contact its amazing. 

You're out to lunch. The purpose of TSA patdowns is to push the limits in order to find them. There was talk of a protest day last Thanksgiving and the TSA responded by simply turning its pornoscanners off for the day. They don't want a showdown with the public, they want to see what they can get away with. That's the only meaningful purpose for the TSA.

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chunter replied on Tue, Apr 12 2011 2:46 PM

"They don't want a showdown with the public, they want to see what they can get away with. That's the only meaningful purpose for the TSA.

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Well said.  And that is exactly why we need to keep having protest TSA days.

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Americans are so anal about interpersonal contact its amazing. 

I know right?  Its like, so what if my hand is resting on the zipper of your pants?  I know you wouldn't get pissed about it, but Americans...sheesh.  This one time on the subway I asked a little boy if he wanted to sit on my lap instead of stand.  You should've seen the look on his mothers face.  She was just too anal about interpersonal contact.  I mean, if you had kids I'm sure you would let me touch them all sorts of ways.

 

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Here's a girl half her age:

 

And here's what happens to little boys after they get OFF a train...

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EconomistInTraining:

[...] Americans are so anal about interpersonal contact its amazing. 

Wait, was a pun intended?

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I know right?  Its like, so what if my hand is resting on the zipper of your pants?  I know you wouldn't get pissed about it, but Americans...sheesh.  This one time on the subway I asked a little boy if he wanted to sit on my lap instead of stand.  You should've seen the look on his mothers face.  She was just too anal about interpersonal contact.  I mean, if you had kids I'm sure you would let me touch them all sorts of ways.

Oh come on, it's a little different. The point is that only in America would the any considerable number of people assume that TSA agents are in their current line of employment because they like "groping" random individuals. Here's the reality, most people are ugly, throw a few hours of travelling into the mix and the understable lack of effort most people put into their appearance when they go onto planes and I feel more sympathy for TSA agents than I do for their "victims".

 

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Valject replied on Tue, Apr 12 2011 11:57 PM

S'different because they have a badge and they're only doing it out of paranoia that someone might be smuggling a bomb in your child's crotch.

Totally different.

Pedophiles aren't necessarily psychotic, you see.

 

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Oh come on, it's a little different. The point is that only in America would the any considerable number of people assume that TSA agents are in their current line of employment because they like "groping" random individuals. Here's the reality, most people are ugly, throw a few hours of travelling into the mix and the understable lack of effort most people put into their appearance when they go onto planes and I feel more sympathy for TSA agents than I do for their "victims".

I don't think that TSA agents are in the biz just to touch kids, but thats not what I was taking issue with.  My issue was that you seem to relegate yourself the authority of how much personal contact is acceptable for not just yourself and your family, but for everyone. 

To be honest, we are probably in agreement that most of these TSA stories are sensationalist and recruiting tools for libertarians, but seriously, realize that people have different comfort zones.

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Clayton replied on Wed, Apr 13 2011 11:44 AM

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Oh come on, it's a little different. The point is that only in America would the any considerable number of people assume that TSA agents are in their current line of employment because they like "groping" random individuals. Here's the reality, most people are ugly, throw a few hours of travelling into the mix and the understable lack of effort most people put into their appearance when they go onto planes and I feel more sympathy for TSA agents than I do for their "victims".

I don't think that TSA agents are in the biz just to touch kids, but thats not what I was taking issue with.  My issue was that you seem to relegate yourself the authority of how much personal contact is acceptable for not just yourself and your family, but for everyone. 

To be honest, we are probably in agreement that most of these TSA stories are sensationalist and recruiting tools for libertarians, but seriously, realize that people have different comfort zones.

 
I don't think the effects of adverse selection should be ignored. Most foster parents are not child abusers but the ideal situation for a child abuser is to become a foster parent. That's not an indictment of foster parenting, per se, it's an indictment of the legal system which has created the need for foster parents to begin with. Most TSA agents are not sexual deviants but an ideal situation for a sexual deviant who gets excitement from touching and/or viewing naked random strangers is to become a TSA patdown/scanning agent.
 
And I fully agree with you that EiT has certainly implied that his sensibilities regarding what amount of touching is acceptable should be universal. Such dogmatism is laughable in the modern world. The irony is that he thinks the average American is unsophisticated by comparison to himself.
 
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Oh yeah...it also makes us look really good to the rest of the world too...

 

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Clayton:
I don't think the effects of adverse selection should be ignored. Most foster parents are not child abusers but the ideal situation for a child abuser is to become a foster parent. That's not an indictment of foster parenting, per se, it's an indictment of the legal system which has created the need for foster parents to begin with. Most TSA agents are not sexual deviants but an ideal situation for a sexual deviant who gets excitement from touching and/or viewing naked random strangers is to become a TSA patdown/scanning agent.
 
It should also be mentioned that the US government as an employer is notoriously bad at NOT hiring terrible people.  Ultimately though, its an empirical question as to how many TSA agants are actually there for the body massage.
 
 

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Seriously anyone who's been to a dmv knows that. It's part of the training protocol.

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And I fully agree with you that EiT has certainly implied that his sensibilities regarding what amount of touching is acceptable should be universal. Such dogmatism is laughable in the modern world. The irony is that he thinks the average American is unsophisticated by comparison to himself.
I don't see where I've implied such a thing, I just posted that it would take an American to think that the person doing the patting down must be some sort of pedophile who gets a kick outta that kinda thing. If you want to kick off the whole "American vs. Europe" argument, I'm not the person to do with it, I've lived in the States and think its a fantastic country. You guys just have some quirks that I find amusing, and vice versa. 
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I agree with you EiT, Europeans seem to be totally unaware of pedophiles.

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John James replied on Wed, Apr 13 2011 10:59 PM

liberty student:
I agree with you EiT, Europeans seem to be totally unaware of pedophiles.

I think that's because in Europe they're called "Europeans".

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